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Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8131981)
Shove your cliches right up your ass and use The Tree as the tamper.

Who would have thought that "The Tree" would give our organization AIDS.

DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nose (Post 8131972)
That might be getting a little too carried away no?

Playoff victory?

This was Haley's "Huard starting at Denver moment." Results about the same?

FAX 11-22-2011 01:01 AM

I'm concerned.

FAX THE CONCERNED

Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8131963)
Clean out the entire mess. Top down.

Best we can hope for is Cassel or Haley gone in the immediate.

If we get REALLY lucky, both. Like, a car hits one of them in the offseason.

Pioli is here for at least two more seasons.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8131986)
Playoff victory?

This was Haley's "Huard starting at Denver moment." Results about the same?

9-6, 34-3

about the same

tdurden58 11-22-2011 01:04 AM

I hear the old AC at Penn State Sandusky is looking for work... prob be a better fit with this team. .

Halfcan 11-22-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8131981)
I don't know if there's been a tandem in NFL history that has come to an organization with more pomp and bravado than Pioli and Haley and failed as miserably.

We're not about the sizzle. Riiiiiggghhhtt, Scott. You two clowns are all fizzle. Shove your cliches right up your ass and use The Tree as the tamper.

:thumb: I know and the smug look on Clarks face-the 3 amigos acted like they had already won multiple super bowls-lol

DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:06 AM

OK, so Pioli puked all over himself in the off-season and assembled a roster devoid of depth. Whether he was hand-tied by Hunt is immaterial. What we know is that someone is going to have to fall on this miserable sword, and this someone will almost certainly be Haley, who has done nothing to absolve himself of a good deal of blame for this team's ineptitude.

Next HC of the Chiefs? Jeff Fisher.

Why? Complete opposite. Defensive minded. Previous HCing experience. "Proven winner." Won't demand total control of the organization.

Pioli will go into full on save-his-own-ass mode and venture outside of The Tree to try to land a "sure thing."

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-22-2011 01:08 AM

If Pioli thought that he was going to be financially handcuffed by Hunt he would have never taken the offer. It's not like Cleveland didn't offer him the job.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 01:10 AM

Jeff Fisher would be an improvement. At this point, whatever perceived warts he has, are offset by the fact that he resembles Bill Walsh in comparison to the last six years.

Brock 11-22-2011 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8132007)
OK, so Pioli puked all over himself in the off-season and assembled a roster devoid of depth. Whether he was hand-tied by Hunt is immaterial. What we know is that someone is going to have to fall on this miserable sword, and this someone will almost certainly be Haley, who has done nothing to absolve himself of a good deal of blame for this team's ineptitude.

Next HC of the Chiefs? Jeff Fisher.

Why? Complete opposite. Defensive minded. Previous HCing experience. "Proven winner." Won't demand total control of the organization.

Pioli will go into full on save-his-own-ass mode and venture outside of The Tree to try to land a "sure thing."

The sad thing is, like a goddamn pavlovian dog, I find myself thinking Fisher looks good right now.

DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8132011)
If Pioli thought that he was going to be financially handcuffed by Hunt he would have never taken the offer. It's not like Cleveland didn't offer him the job.

To a certain extent I agree. But I cannot help but compare him to Dayton Moore, who also, presumably, received certain assurances from Glass before accepting the job in KC. However, the situation on the ground sometimes doesn't mirror the sweet talk that occurs during recruiting visits, as it would be unlikely that payroll dollar amounts would make it into a contract.

Halfcan 11-22-2011 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8132007)
OK, so Pioli puked all over himself in the off-season and assembled a roster devoid of depth. Whether he was hand-tied by Hunt is immaterial. What we know is that someone is going to have to fall on this miserable sword, and this someone will almost certainly be Haley, who has done nothing to absolve himself of a good deal of blame for this team's ineptitude.

Next HC of the Chiefs? Jeff Fisher.

Why? Complete opposite. Defensive minded. Previous HCing experience. "Proven winner." Won't demand total control of the organization.

Pioli will go into full on save-his-own-ass mode and venture outside of The Tree to try to land a "sure thing."

??? what makes you think that?? Fisher was always a pretty solid coach-he never had much to work with but seemed to get the most out of the crap he had.

DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8132021)
The sad thing is, like a goddamn pavlovian dog, I find myself thinking Fisher looks good right now.

There's no question. We'd be tougher, meaner, better prepared, and consistent playoff contenders.

And then promptly get bounced in the first round.

But, ****, that BBQ smells good.

DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 8132026)
??? what makes you think that?? Fisher was always a pretty solid coach-he never had much to work with but seemed to get the most out of the crap he had.

Complete guess, but based on the fact that the next hire is usually the opposite of what just failed.


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