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Saccopoo 01-10-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8283075)
I haven't seen him mocked in the 2nd at all, let alone of the top of it.

Same story every year.. Hmmmm let's draft some lineman from a shitty conference.. BYU, Utah, Boise State, and Wisconsin being my favorite.

Yeah...

Those shitty teams have put some shitty players into the NFL of late.

You obviously know a lot. It shows.

DeezNutz 01-10-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8283100)
Why don't people understand this yet? Are they still watching 10 plus year old VHS tapes of games and haven't caught up to today's games.

And I don't understand why NFL execs aren't more open about the priority and significance of the position. For example, in his three years here, I can't remember Pioli ever speaking about the QB position more generally. He'll say some things about Cassel, sure, but not about the basic structure of the NFL...that's it's QB-driven.

Saccopoo 01-10-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8283104)
So, you come from the past. Welcome to 2012 where QB's rule the league.

How many passes did Tebow complete when the Broncos beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead this past season?

And how many yards did Matt Stafford pass for the past two games, which were both losses?

You still have to control the line of scrimmage.

RealSNR 01-10-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8282953)
Mack




Pouncey

Konz

Mack is the only center I've seen in my young lifetime that I'd drop a 1st on. And I would never have done it #12 overall.

Sometimes I think you're just trolling.

I'd put Konz above Pouncey and just a sliver below Mack. The Chiefs are getting a great player if they draft Konz.

They SHOULD trade up for a QB, but if they can't find a buyer (read: idiotically don't value the position enough) and some of those really great tackles are gone, then Konz is perfect. We could even do one of your trade down scenarios and grab him a few picks later.

Saccopoo 01-10-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8283044)
...reaching for OL with our first two picks thankfully isn't going to happen, as pioli does generally show an eye for value

http://www.kcchiefs.com/assets/image...amp_8_1_11.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1283787304

durtyrute 01-10-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8282983)
Because beyond the first two, there isn't much to get excited about. And barring a complete sell of the draft, we aren't going to move up for either Luck or Griffin.

Nick Foles is kind of a Cassel clone with a bigger arm. Athletic with prototype size, but the knock on him is that he has a tendency to lock onto his first receiver and never go away from him.

The guy I really like is Kellen Moore of Boise State, but he's 6'0", 185 lbs. and that makes him a late day draft pick in the modern NFL. However, the guy is an absolute winner - in fact, he's the winningest quarterback in college football history. With his destruction of Arizona State in the Maaco Bowl, he closed out his career with 50 wins. That's right. 50. And it's not like Boise State ducked anyone during his four years as a starter.

A career passer rating of 169.9 and a remarkable senior season with 3,800 yards on 326/439 passing and 43 TD's to 9 Ints (which was first in the FBS in completion percentage).

I wouldn't mind it a bit if the Chiefs picked him up in the fourth/fifth round if he was still there. Put him on the roster and see what happens. I wouldn't bet against him.


Add to that that they picked Stanzi last year. I'd really like to see him given a chance versus having Orton and Cassel both on the roster.

Thanks for that. I don't follow college as much as you guys and was curious.

the Talking Can 01-10-2012 03:47 PM

you don't have to tell me...

but he was much better with Berry and Baldwin, Hudson and Asamoah, even Arenas seems better in retrospect...

he grabbed Houston in the 3rd realizing the value, and let Powe drop and never reached...there are signs

htismaqe 01-10-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8283119)
How many passes did Tebow complete when the Broncos beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead this past season?

And how many yards did Matt Stafford pass for the past two games, which were both losses?

You still have to control the line of scrimmage.

Yeah, because using all those high draft picks on offensive linemen has helped control the line of scrimmage for the Rams...

Pasta Little Brioni 01-10-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8283233)
Yeah, because using all those high draft picks on offensive linemen has helped control the line of scrimmage for the Rams...

They scored what...10 points a game this year??? LMAO

How many wins and points did Carolina gain by snatching Newton?

LiL stumppy 01-10-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8283088)
Games are won under center.

Very true.

What's true is they both are important, with out both, your nothing.

htismaqe 01-10-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy (Post 8283254)
Very true.

What's true is they both are important, with out both, your nothing.

Tell that to the Saints.

Their starting center is Brian De La Puente.

DeezNutz 01-10-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8283316)
Tell that to the Saints.

Their starting center is Brian De La Puente.

In fairness, imagine where De La Puente would be drafted today...

Dude has ****ing made Brees, a lowly second-rounder, play like a HOFer.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-10-2012 04:19 PM

Terrible Mock.

Urc Burry 01-10-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8283110)
Yeah...

Those shitty teams have put some shitty players into the NFL of late.

You obviously know a lot. It shows.

Did I call them shitty teams?

How did your boy Zane Taylor turn out? And Brian Bulaga would of been such a steal at the 5th pick in the '10 draft!

Can I safely assume you are mormon for how biased you are of your Utah linemen?

Bewbies 01-10-2012 04:22 PM

The most surprising part of this mock is the absence of Albert bashing. A big step in the right direction.

Honestly, if that first pick can't be a QB nobody is going to be happy anyway...


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