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Saccopoo 01-31-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8338015)
I just want this defense to be Steelers nasty and I think Soliai could make it that.

It's not really the nose tackle in a 34 that makes a defense "nasty." They aren't going to make many plays as they are required to keep the center and a guard off the linebackers, fill the gap and force the run to the outside so the LB's and safeties can make the play.

I just don't think Soliai is as good as you are making him out to be and that the position itself is a two-down, space eater. Someone is going to overpay for his services IMO.

And I think we are close anyway. With a healthy Berry and a Houston that we saw the last two games of the year, those are the two guys that can make this defense nasty.

The defense is pretty solid. Young, but solid and will only get better - especially with a full off-season this next year.

Chief Roundup 01-31-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8331766)
Also this draft scenario woudl give us an oline of

Alber, Hudson, Konz, Asamoah, Adams.

Thats a young damn fine offensive line.

You didn't draft Konz in your OP.

O.city 01-31-2012 10:12 PM

Sac, I know you indulge around in draft planet, so I know you will see this.


What do you think of Bobbie Massie as a RT prospect?

O.city 01-31-2012 11:13 PM

I changed my draft up a little guys.

whoman69 02-01-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8331735)
Everyone else is making one, so I figured I'd get in on the action.

This mock is based on a couple assumptions.

First, we sign Paul Soliai in free agency to play NT. Second, we resign Orton to compete with Cassel in training camp, and he wins.

Round 1.
At 11 overall, Richardson falls to us and we take him. Best RB prospect to come out in years.

Round 2.
Dontari Poe, falls out of the first round right to us here.

Round 3
Bobbie Massie. Got a RT, who is a monster and played RT in college.

Round 4
Michael Egnew. We get some TE depth.

Round 5
George Iloka. Safety Depth

Round 6
Joe Adams. Some speed at wr.

Round 7
Chris Galippo. Some special teams help and lb depth.

If you get Soliai as an FA then we probably don't need Poe. I don't believe Massie will last until round 3. Egnew dropped off greatly without Gabbert and there are concerns about speed but wouldn't be bad for a round 4 guy. I also don't think Adams will be available as he is project 3-4, 5th at latest. Not a lot of production from Galippo and with Greenwood resigned doesn't seem to be an area of need.

O.city 02-01-2012 05:35 PM

Well I forgot to take out the Soliai in the beginning. He's gonna likely want too much for our taste.

I'd also take Adams in teh fourth and move everyone else back a round. I think the dude is gonna be a perfect slot guy. He could end up being a Desean Jackson type guy.

O.city 02-03-2012 03:54 PM

If we can get a qb this draft sets us over the edge.

NJChiefsFan 02-04-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8338015)
I just want this defense to be Steelers nasty and I think Soliai could make it that.

The problem is a lot of teams know how much Soliai can help. I am going to have to, unless someone else does first, figure out exactly how many teams will realistically be going after him this year. With the Carr and Bowe situation, I would be blown away if we came away with all 3 guys.

whoman69 02-05-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8349543)
The problem is a lot of teams know how much Soliai can help. I am going to have to, unless someone else does first, figure out exactly how many teams will realistically be going after him this year. With the Carr and Bowe situation, I would be blown away if we came away with all 3 guys.

Sign a 29 year old Soliai this year and somewhere in the next two years you're going to have to tell one of our younger players they have to walk because we can't afford him because we can't afford the dead cap space to cut a NT that is no longer physically up to the position.

In58men 02-05-2012 12:16 PM

Love the mock, but I think Joe Adams will be gone in the 2nd round. His stock will rise.

BossChief 02-06-2012 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8350011)
Sign a 29 year old Soliai this year and somewhere in the next two years you're going to have to tell one of our younger players they have to walk because we can't afford him because we can't afford the dead cap space to cut a NT that is no longer physically up to the position.

Cmon man....

Dude, he just turned 28 on December 30th.

He has at least 5 productive years left before age is a legitimate issue for his position.

Kelly Gregg just put in a solid year for us and was 35 years old.

Soliai wont even be 29 until the end of next season.

Also, the cap talk is silly.

We were 32 million dollars under the cap and signed guys to front loaded deals. Siting being in trouble in the future due to the cap is a soon to be vanquished legend.

Truth is, we NEED to sign guys like Soliai if we are gonna get to the true cap floor next year without being forced to sign average players to above average contracts.

We are talking about a probowl quality player at a very important position in relevance to our type of defense that canbehad for a reasonable amount. There is no downfall to signing a guy like him.

KCrockaholic 02-06-2012 12:37 AM

The mock is just too unrealistic IMO. I'd be surprised to see Poe drop out of the 1st. Joe Adams is still too low. He'll be a 2nd-3rd round pick at latest. Also, Egnew will be gone sooner. It's a weak TE class.

I just feel like the whole thing needs a little more thought and realism put in. Again, it's JMO, I always appreciate looking at random mocks and opinions.

O.city 02-06-2012 11:33 AM

It is a little unreal, but I was just basing it off where everyone is ranked right now pre combine. I don't think it will end up this way but it could.

aturnis 02-06-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8350011)
Sign a 29 year old Soliai this year and somewhere in the next two years you're going to have to tell one of our younger players they have to walk because we can't afford him because we can't afford the dead cap space to cut a NT that is no longer physically up to the position.

YOU ARE AN IDIOT! What Soliai is asking for IS NOT expensive for a NT. At all.

Tribal Warfare 02-06-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8354108)
YOU ARE AN IDIOT! What Soliai is asking for IS NOT expensive for a NT. At all.

my thought process on it is it's going to take an assload of money to keep Bowe (because of Cassel) and Carr will look to get paid big time.


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