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MagicHef 02-13-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8368033)
How about the "we don't give a shit about your irrelevant team" perspective? GO BACK TO THE MANE.

That's pretty good.

htismaqe 02-13-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8368844)
Its not just about this season. If we spend all the extra $30 million on big contracts, when 2013 comes back and we no longer are allowed to be $30 million over the cap what do we do? I would rather get the first 4 guys plus some others and still have a little room for other young guys down the road. I like Lewis as well, so to me I would rather spend it in other spots.

First of all, we're not allowed to be $30M over the cap next year. The uncapped year was this past one, was it not? Not sure where you are getting that.

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8368844)
If we get the first 4 guys you are looking at like $40 million give or take, so anything else is using the role-over money that dissapears next season. I am all for spending, and its not a bad move, but I just would rather spend it somewhere else. I guess this is assuming that we aren't going after Manning.

We're $60M under the cap. We're not talking about cash. Those first 4 guys won't come anywhere CLOSE to counting $40M against next year's cap. With bonuses and everything, they MIGHT count $25M against next year's cap.

We could sign Bowe, Carr, Nicks, Solai, and Landry and STILL have room for Peyton Manning.

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8368844)
Beyond this, just on my personal feeling of what Pioli will do, I doubt he goes after a bunch of names. If he is only going to go get 1 or 2 big guys I would rather it be Nicks and Soliai. I personally think the best we will see is Carr, Bowe, and Soliai. Not even sure we see that.

I'm not getting my hopes up, that's for sure.

Fritz88 02-13-2012 08:46 AM

Pipe dream.
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Fritz88 02-13-2012 08:48 AM

Lets pray that the Patriots release Waters so Polio would sign him. He fits our philosophy, he would be am ex Pat.
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NJChiefsFan 02-13-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8368879)
First of all, we're not allowed to be $30M over the cap next year. The uncapped year was this past one, was it not? Not sure where you are getting that.

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I am getting at the role-over cap money. We are 60 over as you know because we are allowed to use the 30 from last year we didn't use. In 2013 we won't be allowed to use that extra 30 million, so if you spend it all this season we will have to get rid of 30 million for the 2013 season.

htismaqe 02-13-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8368889)
I am getting at the role-over cap money. We are 60 over as you know because we are allowed to use the 30 from last year we didn't use. In 2013 we won't be allowed to use that extra 30 million, so if you spend it all this season we will have to get rid of 30 million for the 2013 season.

All of the numbers I've seen suggest we're $60M real dollars under the cap. What's the purpose in reporting a team is XXX under the cap when everybody knows they have to account for rollover? It would be more accurate and easier to just suggest the Chiefs are $30M under instead of $60M. Surely every talking head out there hasn't completely dismissed the rollover money?

O.city 02-13-2012 11:00 AM

Even if you take the rollover into effect, just frontload the contracts this year if you have too.

Rausch 02-13-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8369118)
Even if you take the rollover into effect, just frontload the contracts this year if you have too.

It would be the smartest thing to do.

Instead of slowly climbing contracts sign any FA's to front loaded/multi year deals.

There is absolutely no excuse for not keeping BOTH Bowe and Carr as well as signing 2-3 impact FA's...

htismaqe 02-13-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8369135)
It would be the smartest thing to do.

Instead of slowly climbing contracts sign any FA's to front loaded/multi year deals.

There is absolutely no excuse for not keeping BOTH Bowe and Carr as well as signing 2-3 impact FA's...

This.

This.

And more "this".

Bump 02-13-2012 11:56 AM

upgrade RT in free agency. Draft a guard on day 2. Resign Bowe and Carr, sign Peyton Manning and we will win the Superbowl. OR trade up to get RG3. I'm gonna go ahead and say it, RG3 will be more NFL ready than Luck. I know you guys associate all black QB's who can run as if they are all just another Mike Vick, but RG3 is different. He's smart (very smart), a student of the game and is the type of player that wants himself to be great and he's not all flash without enough substance. He's gonna make Cam Newton look terrible and Cam Newton is a beast.

But Pioli isn't aware of this, unfortunately.

Thig Lyfe 02-13-2012 11:58 AM

Why would we sign a guard in FA when we have a perfectly fine first round pick to use?

saphojunkie 02-13-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8369290)
upgrade RT in free agency. Draft a guard on day 2. Resign Bowe and Carr, sign Peyton Manning and we will win the Superbowl. OR trade up to get RG3. I'm gonna go ahead and say it, RG3 will be more NFL ready than Luck. I know you guys associate all black QB's who can run as if they are all just another Mike Vick, but RG3 is different. He's smart (very smart), a student of the game and is the type of player that wants himself to be great and he's not all flash without enough substance. He's gonna make Cam Newton look terrible and Cam Newton is a beast.

But Pioli isn't aware of this, unfortunately.

First of all, there isn't a right tackle in free agency that is anywhere near as good as the guards available in free agency.

Nicks is an immediate pro bowler.

Sign Nicks (or grubbs, for that matter), draft Reiff or Martin in the first. Soliai, Bowe, Carr, and I wouldn't mind seeing D'Qwell Jackson come in, either. Guy's a tackling machine, and let's not forget we were 26th in the league against the run last season.

Oh, and if RG3 were white, he'd be the #1 overall pick and it wouldn't be close. No one can convince me that race isn't a factor. People can see the GPA, see the degrees, the production, the resume, everything. The second they see the corn rows, they think he's a risk. Sad.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-13-2012 12:35 PM

Landry is today's FA. You know what makes me :whackit:?

Flowers
Carr
Berry
Landry

Bump 02-13-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8369418)
First of all, there isn't a right tackle in free agency that is anywhere near as good as the guards available in free agency.

Nicks is an immediate pro bowler.

Sign Nicks (or grubbs, for that matter), draft Reiff or Martin in the first. Soliai, Bowe, Carr, and I wouldn't mind seeing D'Qwell Jackson come in, either. Guy's a tackling machine, and let's not forget we were 26th in the league against the run last season.

Oh, and if RG3 were white, he'd be the #1 overall pick and it wouldn't be close. No one can convince me that race isn't a factor. People can see the GPA, see the degrees, the production, the resume, everything. The second they see the corn rows, they think he's a risk. Sad.

that is true about RG3, especially in the mid-west. It just is what it is. But RG3 is a special player and one of a kind, I think he's gonna win multiple Superbowls if he gets on the right team.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-21-2012 01:21 PM

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Those interested in a Pro-Bowl guard. RT @15miller: Carl Nicks said new contract has to be more than teammate J Evans $56.7 M dollar deal.


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