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Frosty 04-28-2012 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8576671)
Free agency means guys can sign anywhere they want to sign, right? You seem to complain no matter what the circumstance, so answer this...what would you have the Chiefs do? Not have somebody ready to take over if Albert leaves? Is that wise in your opinion? What is Albert gets hurt? We have NOTHING behind him...all o-line depth was gone prior to today.

All I do is complain? Yeah, that's really been my MO in the 11+ years I've been here. Feel free to bite me.

I've discussed it plenty in the draft thread but I wouldn't worry about replacing Albert until I actually had to. They did pick up a nice player in the 2nd who could have backed up the tackle position in a pinch. Also, this is a fairly deep o-line draft and there are still some decent tackles available if you want to provide depth. As I discussed (not complained) before, it seems like a high #3 pick should be used on someone that will get on the field, either as a starter, a ST player and/or a rotation player. QB and O-line are kind of unique in that they don't tend to share time like other positions, so a backup tackle is only going to see the field in an emergency.

However, after thinking about it for a while, I think they were fully intent on taking the safety Taylor there. When SD sniped him, they simply took the BPA, which happened to be a LT. So be it. Pioli did a nice job of extending Flowers, Charles and Hali so I hope he can extend Albert and Bowe and we don't have to waste a pick in the future to replace those guys.

BTW, I agree that Dorsey probably won't be back unless it's super cheap. He hasn't really fit since the change to a 3-4, though he's done as well as can be expected. I would have understood taking Brockers in the first because of that.

mcaj22 04-28-2012 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 8576646)
Why are you saying this? Resigned Hali, Charles, DJ and Flowers. Carr wanted to leave. Bowe talk is rumors.


and others could be following in Carrs footsteps/mentality very soon. (Bowe, Albert, Dorsey)

if those guys want money, they wont find it with the Chiefs, that's for sure

Frankie 04-28-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by acesn8s (Post 8576598)
Does this work for QB as well?

The said QB still has a few years in his first contract. :banghead:

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8576742)
However, after thinking about it for a while, I think they were fully intent on taking the safety Taylor there. When SD sniped him, they simply took the BPA, which happened to be a LT.

I highly doubt that Stephenson was the BPA at that point. When I look at the players taken after him, some seem to be more highly regarded, at least according to draft 'gurus.'

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8576742)
BTW, I agree that Dorsey probably won't be back unless it's super cheap. He hasn't really fit since the change to a 3-4, though he's done as well as can be expected. I would have understood taking Brockers in the first because of that.

This pretty much is a predictor of our 1st rounder next year. Sorry folks, it won't be a QB.

Frosty 04-28-2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8576749)
I highly doubt that Stephenson was the BPA at that point. When I look at the players taken after him, some seem to be more highly regarded, at least according to draft 'gurus.'

Several reports had him very high in the 3rd.

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8576749)
This pretty much is a predictor of our 1st rounder next year. Sorry folks, it won't be a QB.

You don't have to fill the DE with a first.

That said, I saw quite a few projections before the draft that Poe projected more to a 5 tech than a NT. We might be seeing Poe at DE and Powe at NT next year. Who knows?

beer bacon 04-28-2012 02:40 AM

He's gonna be unstoppable in the open field. Just get Don the ball in space, and he is going to break some ankles. We got a freak athlete, and our offense is going to be unbelievable!!

mdchiefsfan 04-28-2012 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8576744)
and others could be following in Carrs footsteps/mentality very soon. (Bowe, Albert, Dorsey)

if those guys want money, they wont find it with the Chiefs, that's for sure

They could be following Carr's footsteps or they could follow Hali, Johnson, Charles, Flowers' footsteps, why jump to conclusions and assume the worst?

milkman 04-28-2012 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8576624)
Poe is our future five tech DE after they let Dorsey walk/he walks after the 2012 season. I don't see him at the nose.

Jackson/Powe/Poe

And I do think that Stephenson has the potential to be a starting LT, especially in this system. A pretty superb fit.

You may think Poe is our future 5 tech, but I'm pretty sure Romeo Crennel said specifically that he was going to learn to play the nose exclusively.

I'm not buying your bull.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-28-2012 02:58 AM

Mayock had Poe going to the Broncos. After we took him they traded all the way out of the first round. But they jumped us in round 3 to get the safety I think we were going to pick.

mcaj22 04-28-2012 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8576764)
They could be following Carr's footsteps or they could follow Hali, Johnson, Charles, Flowers' footsteps, why jump to conclusions and assume the worst?



because signing all three to contracts they would want would put us in cap hell. 1 of them definitely walks, maybe 2. it doesnt and will never make sense financially to tie all 3 guys up in the offseason to long term deals. impossible. We wouldnt be able to spend the following season

mcaj22 04-28-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8576770)
Mayock had Poe going to the Broncos. After we took him they traded all the way out of the first round. But they jumped us in round 3 to get the safety I think we were going to pick.



the chargers jumped us in round 3.

Fairplay 04-28-2012 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8576770)
Mayock had Poe going to the Broncos. After we took him they traded all the way out of the first round. But they jumped us in round 3 to get the safety I think we were going to pick.



Sounds like your theory could hold water, next time we see Knowmoe2724 we will pressure him for answers what going on.

keg in kc 04-28-2012 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8576769)
You may think Poe is our future 5 tech, but I'm pretty sure Romeo Crennel said specifically that he was going to learn to play the nose exclusively.

I'm not buying your bull.

Come on, you mean you don't think they drafted a 6'4, 350-pound guy to play end?

Crazy!

rtmike 04-28-2012 03:50 AM

I figured we'd get to see what the FO was thinking as far as Albert was concerned by who they picked. It looks like we may be doing this all over again next year.

Allen replaces Lilja & The Don replaces Albert & we're back to where we were.

keg in kc 04-28-2012 04:05 AM

During the season Winston will be 29 and Albert 28. I think rather than being some devious move regarding Albert's future contract negotiations, that this is perhaps more about Stephenson being the best player on their board at the time, and how he can potentially provide some depth for both players for now, while he seasons, and then potentially replace one not necessarily in 2013, as people conjecture, but 2-4 years down the line. He may not even be ready before then.

In any event, quality depth is never a bad thing. Before today, either Albert or Winston going down would have been a veritable disaster (and still may be, as raw as Stephenson is said to be, but there's talent and potential there with him that we clearly didn't have...).

spanky 52 04-28-2012 04:11 AM

Believe you are correct keg. Stephenson will be the swing tackle. I hope people didn't believe Mims was that player. We still could use a backup at center and help at safety for depth. A young rb and wr wouldn't hurt either.

With the rosters expanding to 90 players for OTA's and training camp, will be interesting who the Chief's bring in after the draft this afternoon.


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