steelers are the kind of franchise that wins championships

we should try imitating their winning instead of imitating their hall of fame QB inspired contract hardball...

They have Ben, they'll be fine. He got a 1000 yards out of Antonio Brown for ****'s sake. That guy needs to thank his QB every day of the week for the all the money he just made. I'm sure they are fine for someone opening the bank for Mike f'n Wallace.

Maybe Wallace isn't into that kinda thing?

You aren't really going to try to compare the Carter Moss tandem to anyone still playing are you? Wallace is a fast smurf, Moss is on another level in comparison. Even as a mere example it sounds silly.

This...

I'd give up a 2nd in a heartbeat.

I only meant to suggest that I would prefer a speed & strength combo vs the strength & strength.

You'd "give up" a second round draft choice for for a guy that is not under contract and could not come to tems with his current team because he wants to be paid as the number three receiver in the entire NFL?

Wallace would probably be a better match with Baldwin.

IF Baldwin works out ...

switch Bowe to Wallace still leaves you with the crazy contract demands though


either way, the chiefs should have a better idea of their options after this season.

If Bowe plays well the Chiefs might feel more comfortable about giving more money
If Bowe plays well then his trade value goes up
If Bowe plays meh then he might consider dropping his asking price

a year on the tag doesn't hurt anything unless the Chiefs need that tag again next year (albert,Bowe)

I thought as much, but wasn't completely sure.

I think the Chiefs are trying to imitate the Steelers in some ways.

They're just not very good at it.

Or, they could tell Bowe that they're reuniting him with Todd Haley in Pittsburgh and swapping him with Mike Wallace.

:evil:

Both Wallace and Bowe would play under the tag this year, leaving the Chiefs the Franchise Tag for another player in 2013, if necessary. Let Wallace and Bowe find their value on the open market and negotiate accordingly.

As much as I like Bowe, I do agree that Wallace, Baldwin and Breaston scare me a little more than Bowe, Baldwin and Breaston, if I'm a defensive coordinator.

I think Clark has said the Steelers are the organization he would like to model... I don't have an exact quote on that though. They always seem to make the right decision though. People on here were aghast when they dumped Santonio Holmes for nothing, but it turned out fine. Meanwhile Holmes is off yapping his mouth in New York.

To fair, the Steelers went decades without drafting a first round quarterback. It wasn't until their poor season in 2003 that led to the drafting of Rothlisberger in 2004 and even then, he was the third QB off the board.

He fell into their lap: It wasn't like it was some sort of inspired decision.

Fine is a relative word. Do you think they would have lost the Super Bowl against the Packers had Santonio Holmes been a member of their squad? I don't.

what do you mean they aren't very good at it?

They seem to be putting together a very talent team in very sustainable way.

They seem to be only 1 stud player away from being a legit super bowl challenger. Admittedly that 1 player is at the QB position but it's still only one player.


people act like the entire team is a pile of shit :shrug:


If .......... Stanzi works out then i fail to see much fault with how Pioli has put the team together. He has a rough 1st draft because of a very short draft prep time. He traded for a couple of solid transition guys in Cassel/Vrabel and then replaced them as the team became more established. Outside of Todd 'captain insano' Haley, Pioli did the rebuild almost perfectly.


nevermind ... let the drama queens continue