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htismaqe 08-23-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8844073)
IMO Gordon v. Smith is a tossup. I'd rather KC wait until cuts to see if there are any LBs, S or OL available.

Egg-freakin-zackly.

mcaj22 08-23-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8844477)
They aren't going to carry 7.

Dorsey, Jackson, Toribio, Bailey and Poe are locks.
The 6th spot will go to either Powe, Pitoitua or Gordon.

I hope the last spot goes to Powe. We don't know what he can be yet.
Pitoitua and Gordon have been around the league for a while.

they kept 8 on last years team so why wouldnt Romeo do the same this year?

last years was

Dorsey, Jackson, Bailey, Gilberry, Gordon, Bair, Powe and Gregg

Micjones 08-23-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8844559)
they kept 8 on last years team so why wouldnt Romeo do the same this year?

last years was

Dorsey, Jackson, Bailey, Gilberry, Gordon, Bair, Powe and Gregg

Because of how banged up the secondary has been.

Mr. Laz 08-23-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8844559)
they kept 8 on last years team so why wouldnt Romeo do the same this year?

last years was

Dorsey, Jackson, Bailey, Gilberry, Gordon, Bair, Powe and Gregg

because safety and corner are a bigger need

How can you rely on a safety with a bump shoulder?

Now i realize that Lewis is such a shitty tackler that he may never hit that shoulder again, but still.

our starting safety can't cover,can't tackle and has a bum shoulder.

I would think that adding a FS would be something they are looking at during cuts.

same for cornerback ... if they were planning on Reeves doing something this year then they might want to look for another guy.

Chiefnj2 08-23-2012 12:44 PM

They are in desperate need for a safety, backup OL and LB.

Other than Allen to plug in at the guard position if something happens to either T or C, KC is screwed royally.

Jayrodt 08-23-2012 12:57 PM

You guys are looking at this completely wrong. Smith isn't a backup DE. He's a backup DE, a backup NT, and possibly our starting fullback.

The Franchise 08-23-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayrodt (Post 8844673)
You guys are looking at this completely wrong. Smith isn't a backup DE. He's a backup DE, a backup NT, and possibly our starting fullback.

Ok...so out of the following players....who are you cutting to make room for him?

Dorsey, Jackson, Toribio, Bailey, Pitoitua, Powe and Poe.

htismaqe 08-23-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8844681)
Ok...so out of the following players....who are you cutting to make room for him?

Dorsey, Jackson, Toribio, Bailey, Pitoitua, Powe and Poe.

And keep in mind, you need to cut TWO of the above. The inference by saying that he's a "backup DE and a backup NT" both is that he can replace TWO players, not one.

Chiefnj2 08-23-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8844681)
Ok...so out of the following players....who are you cutting to make room for him?

Dorsey, Jackson, Toribio, Bailey, Pitoitua, Powe and Poe.

You could cut Pitoitua. They won't because of draft position, but so far Bailey hasn't overly impressed.

Mr. Laz 08-23-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8844687)
And keep in mind, you need to cut TWO of the above. The inference by saying that he's a "backup DE and a backup NT" both is that he can replace TWO players, not one.

not really ... it's saying that he can be a backup at EITHER position, not necessarily both.

although after looking at the numbers i think it's more likely that we go with an extra secondary guy instead.

Maybe after the season starts and our secondary gets healthy we can switch to Smith. Then he wouldn't be guaranteed a full year's salary either. Totally depends on the situation in the secondary though.

The Franchise 08-23-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8844690)
You could cut Pitoitua. They won't because of draft position, but so far Bailey hasn't overly impressed.

I would rather have Pitoitua on this team over Smith.

saphojunkie 08-23-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8844590)
Because of how banged up the secondary has been.

It goes further than that. The decision to keep a fullback, or an 8th offensive lineman. or three tight ends.

All of these factor in.

QB
1. CASSEL
2. QUINN
3. STANZI

RB
4. CHARLES
5. HILLIS
6. DRAUGHN
7. GRAY

WR
8. BOWE
9. BALDWIN
10. BREASTON
11. MCCLUSTER
12. WYLIE
13. COPPER
14. HORNE

TE
15. MOEAKI
16. BOSS
17. MANERI
18. OCONNEL

OL
19. ALBERT
20. LILJA
21. HUDSON
22. ASAMOAH
23. HARRIS
24. WINSTON
25. ALLEN
26. STEPHENSON

DL
27. DORSEY
28. JACKSON
29. TORIBIO
30. POE
31. BAILEY
32. POWE
33. PITOITUA
34. BAIR/SMITH/GORDON

LB
35. HALI
36. BELCHER
37. JOHNSON
38. HOUSTON
39. SILER
40. SHEFFIELD
41. STUDEBAKER
42. GREENWOOD

DB
43. FLOWERS
44. BERRY
45. LEWIS
46. ROUTT
47. ELAM
48. MENZIE
49. ARENAS
50. BROWN
51. DANIELS

P
52. COLQUITT

K
53. SUCCOP

The Franchise 08-23-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8844711)
It goes further than that. The decision to keep a fullback, or an 8th offensive lineman. or three tight ends.

All of these factor in.

QB
CASSEL
QUINN
STANZI

RB
CHARLES
HILLIS
DRAUGHN
GRAY

WR
BOWE
BALDWIN
BREASTON
MCCLUSTER
WYLIE
COPPER

TE
MOEAKI
BOSS
MANERI


OL
ALBERT
LILJA
HUDSON
ASAMOAH
HARRIS
WINSTON
ALLEN
STEPHENSON


DL
DORSEY
JACKSON
TORIBIO
POE
BAILEY
POWE
PITOITUA
BAIR

LB
HALI
BELCHER
JOHNSON
HOUSTON
SILER
SHEFFIELD
STUDEBAKER
GREENWOOD

DB
FLOWERS
BERRY
LEWIS
ROUTT
ELAM
MENZIE
ARENAS
BROWN
DANIELS

P
COLQUITT

K
SUCCOP

LS

GAFFORD

Fixed. I removed Horne and O'Connell. That gives you one open spot that you can add another Offensive Lineman or another defensive back.

Mr. Laz 08-23-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8844711)
It goes further than that. The decision to keep a fullback, or an 8th offensive lineman. or three tight ends.

i fully expect us to keep 3 tightends

don't see a fullback worth keeping though

fullback needs to be able to read the open hole AND be athletic enough make the block

we don't have one of those

Micjones 08-23-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8844711)
It goes further than that. The decision to keep a fullback, or an 8th offensive lineman. or three tight ends.

All of these factor in.

QB
1. CASSEL
2. QUINN
3. STANZI

RB
4. CHARLES
5. HILLIS
6. DRAUGHN
7. GRAY

WR
8. BOWE
9. BALDWIN
10. BREASTON
11. MCCLUSTER
12. WYLIE
13. COPPER
14. HORNE

TE
15. MOEAKI
16. BOSS
17. MANERI
18. OCONNEL

OL
19. ALBERT
20. LILJA
21. HUDSON
22. ASAMOAH
23. HARRIS
24. WINSTON
25. ALLEN
26. STEPHENSON

DL
27. DORSEY
28. JACKSON
29. TORIBIO
30. POE
31. BAILEY
32. POWE
33. PITOITUA
34. BAIR/SMITH/GORDON

LB
35. HALI
36. BELCHER
37. JOHNSON
38. HOUSTON
39. SILER
40. SHEFFIELD
41. STUDEBAKER
42. GREENWOOD

DB
43. FLOWERS
44. BERRY
45. LEWIS
46. ROUTT
47. ELAM
48. MENZIE
49. ARENAS
50. BROWN
51. DANIELS

P
52. COLQUITT

K
53. SUCCOP

Where's Gafford?


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