That's coaching my friend.

When you take Pro Bowl level players (and Winston and Berry are Pro Bowl level players) and get substandard production and execution from them, it's all about coaching.

Leadership and coaching.

Instilling winning football.

It's still really, really important.

There is no accountability because there's no depth. Nobody is worried they will lose their job because they know there is a guy who couldn't make the CFL sitting behind them.

So, I'll assume that you are happy with Pioli, Crennel and Cassel?

I'm not talking about coaching. That time has passed for Herr Shottenheimer. I'm agreeing with Maas that Marty does know a thing or two about football, winning football, and would be effective in a consultant type role as he has ties to the organization and the Hunts the last time this franchise had any sort or relevancy.

It's about instilling a certain mindset from the top down.

But if you are happy with the path that this franchise is on, then you, good sir, are entitled to that opinion.

Typical Saccopoo "logic". If someone doesn't like a past proven failure then they must like the current failure.

I've never been a big fan of the Coach/GM/personnel director thing but if it gets rid of these idiots then please bring in Cowher/back Marty/etc....

Weak sauce...it's not an either/or option and silly to make such a ludicrous logical jump.

The Marty years were a mirage, go back and watch the games -- many of them KC had no business winning were never in the game and pulled out a miracle KO/Punt return, etc. Pffft...it's a waste of time to argue about Marty.

He's a proven loser. Just leave him be.

Watching this offense, I figured Marty was already on board.

Given the track record, I would have zero faith Clark would bring in anyone greater than Pioli/Steadman.

Uhhh...apparently he DOES. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. If Clark needs someone to hold his hand and it gets the results we all want...then please...by all means...hire Marty to "consult" and tell Clark what needs to be done.

It wouldn 't matter if there was depth. Romeo isn't gonna bench anybody. They might not like him anymore if he did that.

Romeo doesn't have a choice. Seriously there really aren't any moves that are going to help this team this year. You could plug in Quinn for Cassel, but let's face it, Quinn sucks. Maybe not as much as Cassel, but he still sucks.

You forgot to add and doesn't attempt any passes...

I'm not talking about the QB position. I'm talking about the other 21 guys on the field.

All of this talk about competition at every position is a sham.

Personally I'd like to find out but also like to find out if Stanzi has anything that he can possibly offer down the road. It's time to throw him in whether or not he sucks.

Funny I asked Marty this when he was signing my book . Well I said the Chiefs should

be looking for a new GM he just laughed . Should have asked why he was wearing blue

though.