Because the QB sucks, people have been giving this defense a pass for a long time.

It stinks too. It has basically 1 emerging superstar in Houston, one really good pass rusher in Hali and a bunch of guys who just look lost.

It was 7-3 at halftime.

Then the defense decided, "**** this shit," immediately to start the second half. Immediately. No negative contribution from the offense.

D is not good.

And this was against a bad offense with a QB who had completed 54.6 percent of his passes entering the game.

We're in a world of shit.

Once again, the Raven game gave us a glimpse of what this D can be.

There are a couple of areas that still need to improve, but this defense still can be very good if they are put into a position to succeed.

This defense wouldn't be in the top 10 if the entire Marvel Comic and Avenger characters were starting.

I always get a kick out of how many Chiefs fans on CP clown Ray Lewis. If we had 1 guy that had half his heart or attitude, we wouldn't be talking about lack of leadership. Right now I'd trade any 2 players on this D for his broke down old ass, simply for the attitude.

I'm not even sure we have the talent we think we do. Hali has always made up for athletic deficiencies with motor, and the guy is getting old now. He very well may have peaked and is on the decline. How many times do we think DJ has finally turned the corner, only to have him disappear, or worse, star in the lowlights video? Flowers used to dominate entire series, but the guy seems to be falling off. I pray it's scheme. Our Dlinemen are just a lost cause. dorsey was a legit prospect that we ruined by scheme change. Jackson is exactly what he was the day he was drafted too high. A one dimensional role player. Poe I pray proves me wrong in my expectations. Berry is the only guy that really has an excuse, plus he's being utilized poorly. I still hold out hope that he can claim that leader role, he strikes me as having the personality.

thats what I see, too.
Letting Shaun Smith walk for mere peanuts is just a microcosm of what you are talking about here.

That guy and others like him are exactly what this team missed last year and this.

Tyson Jackson might be one of the all time worst top three picks of all time.

He makes Ryan Sims look like Reggie White.

The only reason that pos is still on the team is it would have made Pioli look bad to cut his ass.

I was just thinking that earlier. It seems absurd to be pining for Sacksquash, but at least the guy had a nasty streak. this defense hasn't played with bad intentions since the mid 90s, and now we have Romeo Ruxpin and his scheme that makes eunuchs out of defensive players.

Patrick Willis was also only like 25 with a huge ceiling and potential.

We are talking Derrick Johnson who is 30 and Tamba Hali who will be 29 in a month.

These guys are in their primes now. Hit their ceilings and are capped. They should be playing with more urgency than they are. And they lack leadership. Patrick Willis was still very very very young when the 49ers were terrible.

with our defense, it's not the players, it's the ****ing coaches. How could they have gotten that much worse?

Tyson Jackson makes Jamarcus look like a reasonable pick.

I've been saying it for months -- there is no vet leadership worth a shit on this team. Winston is an idiot. He false started again today, didn't he? JFC. Whimps.

Same as Cassel...

I bet Clark is happy about that 110 million that Pioli threw out the window trying to look like the smartest man in the room, and in turn, looking like the village idiot.