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O.city 08-23-2013 12:44 PM

Draft classes like that are fine when you have a qb. When you're looking for cornerstones to prop up your qb, it's mediocre

the Talking Can 08-23-2013 12:58 PM

we spent 2 seconds on arenas (traded for a fb) and mccluster

how can that not be considered a disaster?

no need to even mention passing up gronkowski and graham for the 'opportunity' to trade up for brokakki

mcaj22 08-23-2013 02:16 PM

this was the year that Pioli passed on a ****load of good talent for those midgets in the 2nd round

all those good LBers; Bowman, Lee, Washington, Spikes, etc

what a ****ing fat shit of a GM he was

I'm glad we traded a Hall of Fame TE for a CB not even on the team anymore. Thanks Fat Scott

ThaVirus 08-23-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9908839)
this was the year that Pioli passed on a ****load of good talent for those midgets in the 2nd round

all those good LBers; Bowman, Lee, Washington, Spikes, etc

what a ****ing fat shit of a GM he was

I'm glad we traded a Hall of Fame TE for a CB not even on the team anymore. Thanks Fat Scott

What I wouldn't do to have Navarro Bowman on our squad right now.

Hali, Bowman, DJ, Houston. I'm getting a chub just thinking about it...

ThaVirus 08-23-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9908580)
Draft classes like that are fine when you have a qb. When you're looking for cornerstones to prop up your qb, it's mediocre

But, yeah, this is a good summation. Not every draft is going to yield two superstars and 3 starters.

We got a guy that is a superstar in many's eyes (Berry) and a solid starter in Asamoah.

Kendrick Lewis and Javier Arenas would be great safety and CB depth for any team.

McCluster.. Well, I'm sure he could be halfway decent in a more wide-open offense. He'd probably work wonders in a place like New Orleans.

Moeaki has shown some flashes when he hasn't been a pussy, but yes, he was a terrible pick given the Hall of Fame potential of Gronk and Graham.

mcaj22 08-23-2013 02:53 PM

the irony of this being "the team captain" draft and that fat **** passes on Sean Lee. who was a team captain and a ****ing stud at Penn State

it was so obvious those Penn St LBers were going to be good that year

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-23-2013 02:57 PM

That was a god awful draft, and giving it a B instead of a C-/D+ is another example of the delusional nature of Chiefs fans.

Even Berry has been a disappointment.

Rain Man 08-23-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9908932)
That was a god awful draft, and giving it a B instead of a C-/D+ is another example of the delusional nature of Chiefs fans.

Even Berry has been a disappointment.

That's the thing. People keep saying that Berry was a good pick, and I'm still not seeing it. The guy is a missile on run defense, and granted the injury was a big derailment, but a safety at the #6 spot had better be casting lightning bolts from the sky and three years later I'm still not seeing a lot of lightning bolts.

GordonGekko 08-23-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9908948)
That's the thing. People keep saying that Berry was a good pick, and I'm still not seeing it. The guy is a missile on run defense, and granted the injury was a big derailment, but a safety at the #6 spot had better be casting lightning bolts from the sky and three years later I'm still not seeing a lot of lightning bolts.

I'm a bit unsure myself, but look at it this way. Berry is an anchor of the defense, if he weren't there we would be in big trouble. So he does have significant value to the team, and I think this justifies his high selection. I'll take Eric Berry type picks over TJax/Dorsey/Baldwin picks any day. (I still saw value in Baldwin before he was traded, I think Cassel had a lot to do with his suxx)

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-23-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9908948)
That's the thing. People keep saying that Berry was a good pick, and I'm still not seeing it. The guy is a missile on run defense, and granted the injury was a big derailment, but a safety at the #6 spot had better be casting lightning bolts from the sky and three years later I'm still not seeing a lot of lightning bolts.

He was touted as a Tony Gonzalez type safety--a guy capable of redefining the position and changing gameplans. The truth is that he's been closer to Kellen Winslow II, incredibly productive in college and loved by scouts but underwhelming in the pros, than he has been Gonzalez--a generational player who lived up to the hype.

Hammock Parties 08-23-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9908932)
That was a god awful draft, and giving it a B instead of a C-/D+ is another example of the delusional nature of Chiefs fans.

Even Berry has been a disappointment.

We have two above average starters and two decent backups.

That's all you can ask for from any class.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-23-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9908956)
I'm a bit unsure myself, but look at it this way. Berry is an anchor of the defense, if he weren't there we would be in big trouble. So he does have significant value to the team, and I think this justifies his high selection. I'll take Eric Berry type picks over TJax/Dorsey/Baldwin picks any day. (I still saw value in Baldwin before he was traded, I think Cassel had a lot to do with his suxx)

I'll take a C pick over an F pick too, but that doesn't make the C pick any better than a C.

Earl Thomas is a far better safety than Berry, and he was taken almost ten picks later in the first.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-23-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9908988)
We have two above average starters and two decent backups.

That's all you can ask for from any class.

The Chiefs had a top five pick, two second rounders, and two third rounders in a very deep draft class and turned that into a bunch of blech.

You need to draft an elite player in the top five of the draft, and Eric Berry is not elite. You should look for solid starters in the second, and Arenas is gone and McCluster is a gadget player.

If we got that out of the 2009 draft I'd see your point, but 2010 was a much, much better draft.

mcaj22 08-23-2013 03:23 PM

probability states we could have had a monkey fling poo on the draft board on draft day and hit on better players than the moves Fat Scott did that day

paying Fat Scott premium GM money in the NFL so he can trade up for a TE his buddy told him about and flip a hall of fame TE to his other buddy on the Falcons so he can then draft some ****ing crappy CB that his other shit buddy at Alabama tells him to

he would only draft and stick to his stupid high bro failure tree of coaching friends. And that's why we have more duds than hits. These guys from that Browns team know nothing

RealSNR 08-23-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9908932)
That was a god awful draft, and giving it a B instead of a C-/D+ is another example of the delusional nature of Chiefs fans.

Even Berry has been a disappointment.

Berry came on strong in the last 8 games. If he's going to legitimately prove to people that he was the player the entire league's scouts made him out to be, it's gonna have to happen this year.

If not, then that's okay. I've been told from Eric Fisher's fans that it's completely alright to just shoot for adequate/good when you get drafted in the top 5 and don't play a premier position.


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