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Saccopoo 08-25-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9913957)
more than that, they wanted

Leniart
Sanchez
Clausen
Geno

basically every year they are going to find a QB in the draft to label the next 'must have' QB that the Chiefs can't live without. It doesn't matter whether they guy is any good or not.

I understand that people are desperate for a QB ... i want one too.


I thought Clausen would be a solid 2nd round pick but he's turns to shit.

I think Geno is better than he is showing now.


we just need to calm down a bit.

Don't say "they."

I loathed Clausen as a prospect and didn't want anything to do with either Leinhardt or Sanchez. I felt both were products of a system supported by NFL level talent all around them on both sides of the ball.

I did and do think Geno had the tools to be a successful NFL level QB. However, he's in a real shit storm right now because of the stupidity and media focus on Ryan and Sanchez - two guys who just can't seem to keep their idiocy out of the media spotlight. That is creating an absolute feeding frenzy with the media right now.

As soon as they dump Ryan and release Sanchez after the 2013 season when it's fiscally feasible to do, Geno will have a much better chance at success due to the lessening of focus by the media.

Eleazar 08-25-2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9913957)
Leniart
Sanchez
Clausen
Geno

basically every year they are going to find a QB in the draft to label the next 'must have' QB that the Chiefs can't live without. It doesn't matter whether they guy is any good or not.

precisely

FloridaMan88 08-25-2013 09:37 AM

Peyton Manning's 3rd preseason game as a rookie:

11 for 21 for 123 yards and 2 INTs.

Manning played into the third quarter and his Colts lost 33-3... to Ryan Leaf's Chargers.

Not saying Geno is going to turn into Manning, but JFC people, it is the third preseason game of his rookie season.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-25-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9913989)
Don't say "they."

I loathed Clausen as a prospect and didn't want anything to do with either Leinhardt or Sanchez. I felt both were products of a system supported by NFL level talent all around them on both sides of the ball.

I did and do think Geno had the tools to be a successful NFL level QB. However, he's in a real shit storm right now because of the stupidity and media focus on Ryan and Sanchez - two guys who just can't seem to keep their idiocy out of the media spotlight. That is creating an absolute feeding frenzy with the media right now.

As soon as they dump Ryan and release Sanchez after the 2013 season when it's fiscally feasible to do, Geno will have a much better chance at success due to the lessening of focus by the media.

What does teh media/Ryan situation have to do with throwing 3 picks and running out of the back of the endzone....? People on this thread trashed Holgorsen as a HC but it didn't seem to affect Geno's performance on the field. How is this any different? I see it all as an excuse.

9er guy 08-25-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9913994)
Not saying Geno is going to turn into Manning, but JFC people, it his the third preseason game of his rookie season.

You're absolutely right. I just think that organization is so unstable, we're not going to get to see a true QB maturation.

So I don't know if a Geno Smith ever lives up to his potential. (Whatever that is)

BlackHelicopters 08-25-2013 09:50 AM

Tyler Bray>Chuck Norris

TEX 08-25-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9914000)
You're absolutely right. I just think that organization is so unstable, we're not going to get to see a true QB maturation.

So I don't know if a Geno Smith ever lives up to his potential. (Whatever that is)

Serviceable backup NFL QB if he's lucky.

Bowser 08-25-2013 10:10 AM

I'll freely admit I wanted Geno here. The way I saw it, he could come here and ride the pine behind Alex and Chase with zero pressure on him this season and probably next. Andy could teach him how to run an NFL offense and Alex/Chase could teach him how to be a pro. That being said, top overall picks shouldn't have to be taught any of that.

I liked the guys skills as a QB, and think he can still be a gifted passer. But he is going to go down in flames in New York with the sideshow that is the Jets.

Sannyasi 08-25-2013 10:11 AM

I don't love Bray, but at least we didn't use a first overall pick on him like people here wanted to do with Geno.

Mr. Laz 08-25-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9913989)
Don't say "they."
.

They know who They are


If it doesn't apply to you then fine.

tredadda 08-25-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9913414)
Geno will start and get better. That said, I'm glad we have Bray.

I am no fan of Geno, but Peyton Manning looked like crap his first season as well. Is Geno the next Peyton? Nope, not even close but I will reserve judgement on him till at least a couple of seasons.

Mother****erJones 08-25-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 9913827)
no, but he slept on an uncomfortable bed last night...........

Well then he obviously didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express did he?

mdchiefsfan 08-25-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9913989)
Don't say "they."

I loathed Clausen as a prospect and didn't want anything to do with either Leinhardt or Sanchez. I felt both were products of a system supported by NFL level talent all around them on both sides of the ball.

I did and do think Geno had the tools to be a successful NFL level QB. However, he's in a real shit storm right now because of the stupidity and media focus on Ryan and Sanchez - two guys who just can't seem to keep their idiocy out of the media spotlight. That is creating an absolute feeding frenzy with the media right now.

As soon as they dump Ryan and release Sanchez after the 2013 season when it's fiscally feasible to do, Geno will have a much better chance at success due to the lessening of focus by the media.

This, many of us claimed that Geno would need some time to develop and that the Jets and Raiders were the worst possible destinations for him to go because of the surrounding talent.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-25-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9913938)
Pretty hard to get any worse.

That media is going to eat him alive though. If he was somewhere like Jacksonville, he might have a chance.

There? None.

If he thrives in that climate, then we did in fact miss a good QB.

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9913985)
Haha Geno worshipers who absolutely loved the guy and wanted us to draft him SO desperately now running like rats from a drowning ship. Show some spine you gutless cowards. No respect.

Who's running, you Cassel-loving mother****er?

Marcellus 08-25-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9914197)
This, many of us claimed that Geno would need some time to develop and that the Jets and Raiders were the worst possible destinations for him to go because of the surrounding talent.

You dont draft a QB at 1.1 who needs time and players around him to develop.

You draft a QB at 1.1 when they are franchise QB's who make the talent around them better.

Many of US have said that over and over.


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