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Rasputin 09-04-2013 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9936913)
I get the anger but, why not win now? Why do you care about the stats if we win? Don't you want to see the six pro bowlers and Flowers actually do something for once? I assume you are like me and have invested a lot of time watching these guys. Think about how they feel. They want to win. Like it or not Smith was the best QB available and they are going to play hard for him. This isn't Cassel part deux. I guess he'll have to prove it and winning cures everything.

Every team hopes to continue building and stay in the hunt. If you don't think they are doing that you are crazy. But, the window is closing and I think they believe we have some damn good talent.



Why not win now? That's been said during DT time. That's what Dick Vermeil tried we are always in the win now mode never are we building for Championships.

Red Gorilla 09-04-2013 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9936918)
Winning in the playoffs maybe would help?

Regardless what happens this year I want us to draft a quarterback in next years draft to be our guy for the future. They can compete and have Bray compete as well.

I'm sick of retreads so he best win in the playoffs and make Chiefs look good doing it.

I'm cool with that and I think we will if the opportunity arises. It's just really sad how Pioli rocked Chiefs Kingdom to its core. He's gone now and I think some don't really realize it. I don't know what else Clark needs to do. He got a new GM he is very blue collar and forthcoming, we have three new QBs, and a proven winner of a HC. Pioli sucked ass but, he is gone. Let's give these guys a chance.

Sandy Vagina 09-04-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9936800)
Depends on the team W/L i'd say.

Exactly. Kids and fantasy footballers can focus on the numbers like this, but all that ever really matters are the wins.

I would easily suspect Smith's completion % to be much better. At least in the 60's. The QBR would likely be in the upper 80's to low 90's. TD/INT ratio looks good enough. Yardage would obviously be higher unless people are wrong about Reid's planned aggression... or Smith misses a few games.

Overall, if he puts up your numbers and KC either goes to or just misses the playoffs at 9-7? Then, I'd say it was a decent and promising start... and to expect even better from the 2014 season.

Sandy Vagina 09-04-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9936825)
I do. Absolutely. If Alex doesn't perform the way that Andy wants, and Bray shows steps forward next season, I could definitely see Bray replacing Alex Smith next season during the year, and Alex being gone after the season.

Now, if Alex Smith comes out and proves to be a top 10 qb, then yeah, he will have earned it.

If I was forced to bet, I would bet HARD on the former, and laugh at anyone taking the latter.

So now, you think Smith is not good enough, and your money is on him getting booted? Do I have that right? Am I to understand that you have now flip-flopped already on Smith just for the sake of sucking CP's e-penis?

If so...

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/9360/deadhorse.gif

Red Gorilla 09-04-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9936932)
Exactly. Kids and fantasy footballers can focus on the numbers like this, but all that ever really matters are the wins.

Good post and I agree. People are consumed by numbers.

Mav 09-04-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9936938)
So now, you think Smith is not good enough, and your money is on him getting booted? Do I have that right? Am I to understand that you have now flip-flopped already on Smith just for the sake of sucking CP's e-penis?

If so...

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/9360/deadhorse.gif

I like the Alex Smith I saw the past two years.

I like the fact that Alex was very masterful at running the offense, the pre play adjustments, the giving the players a chance to make a play, the ability to be clutch when he needed to be, and not having to be THE GUY.

I have no idea how Andy Reid is going to use Alex Smith. Until I see that, I am skeptical.

Even you have to admit that Alex's strength is not pushing the ball down the field.

Until I see it done consistently, I even as big of a fan of Alex as I am, aint buying it. I will gladly eat crow when I see it. This doesn't mean im sucking anything. I am merely maintaining what I have said since I have been here.

Being realistic, makes me no less of an Alex Smith fan. I just have no problem admitting ive never seen him be asked to carry an offense, and be successful.

LowExpectations 09-04-2013 08:12 AM

Expect around a 61% completion percentage, 2800 yards, a bottom 10 3rd down conversion rate, and 15-18 TD's.

loochy 09-04-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 9936802)
Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.

This.

Or, restated in an easier way:

Are these Matt Cassel "Pro Bowl" numbers?

Ace Gunner 09-04-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9937080)
Expect around a 61% completion percentage, 2800 yards, a bottom 10 3rd down conversion rate, and 15-18 TD's.

with Jamaal & DBOWE primary targets on the other end of those passes, I'm going to say you're off. 3500 yd area, 25 td's.

Ace Gunner 09-04-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 9936802)
Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.

can't find stats for any of this so it can't be important /cp elite

Mav 09-04-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Gunner (Post 9937094)
with Jamaal & DBOWE primary targets on the other end of those passes, I'm going to say you're off. 3500 yd area, 25 td's.

too early to be feeding the TROLLS ace......:D

Dayze 09-04-2013 08:25 AM

I'd say no; simply because of the price of two 2nds.

Mav 09-04-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9937117)
I'd say no; simply because of the price of two 2nds.

at least you think the chiefs will win 8 games.

RealSNR 09-04-2013 08:33 AM

Who cares about stats?

Because if you only focus on wins, those wins aren't sustainable. It's a sign of a football team getting away with more than they should, and eventually (next year or in the playoffs) that shit usually comes crashing down.

There are very few teams that can win in the playoffs year after year after year and not "look good" on paper.

We don't want 2010 again. 2010 can go **** itself in the eye.

Dayze 09-04-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9937133)
at least you think the chiefs will win 8 games.

I should've also stated that my view was based simply on the stats. If they make it to the AFC Championship game etc, then it's worth it. But, they won't.

I say they're 6-10 / 8-8 team.


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