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listopencil 01-20-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10383130)
This proposal would bring into question any FG attempts from that distance. Why would they not get that same status as being automatic?

Because you haven't scored a TD to earn the right to kick for a virtually automatic score.

KChiefer 01-20-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10383130)
This proposal would bring into question any FG attempts from that distance. Why would they not get that same status as being automatic?

You have a point, but how many fgs are kicked inside the 2yd line in a game? Teams will still have to kick those.

cosmo20002 01-20-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10383135)
In rugby, I believe they have a set distance for those kicks, but I can't find it off-hand. Anyway, my intention was for this kick to be attempted along a horizontal line that stretches from sideline to sideline.

OK, just stop with the rugby.

listopencil 01-20-2014 04:27 PM

If this rule is enacted, expect some network to do a montage of every missed XP ever filmed. ESPN will do a forty five minute special on it. Hell, maybe a whole week.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-20-2014 04:28 PM

good

Raiderhater 01-20-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10383130)
This proposal would bring into question any FG attempts from that distance. Why would they not get that same status as being automatic?

An excellent point.

greatgooglymoogly 01-20-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10383145)
OK, just stop with the rugby.

Yeah, **** the sport that inspired the sport we're discussing.

kcxiv 01-20-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10383112)
The NFL could do what rugby does and force the kicker to attempt the XP from where on the field the TD was scored. That would make it more difficult.

Example: Charles hits the outside, and just sneaks inside the pylon for the TD. Succop then has to kick from that sideline.

So you punish team for making a great long play? but a 1 yard run gets free points? thats kinda dumb.

I dont hate his idea, but i would like to see them allow better defenses. So many games where teams are scoring in the 40s and 50's now. Its Arena Like.

Raiderhater 01-20-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 10383144)
You have a point, but how many fgs are kicked inside the 2yd line in a game? Teams will still have to kick those.

Clearly you have not invested a lot of time in watching the Kansas City Chiefs.

Nightfyre 01-20-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10383130)
This proposal would bring into question any FG attempts from that distance. Why would they not get that same status as being automatic?

Field goals at this distance are not nearly as prevalent as extra points. Further, the field goal is for three points, where the extra point is just one point.

Contrarian 01-20-2014 04:32 PM

I like getting rid of the extra point for this scenario Goodell speaks of!! But don't remove the kicker entirely from the game please, move the damn kickoffs back to where they were so every one of them are not out the back of the endzone! Talk about boring!!

listopencil 01-20-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10383145)
OK, just stop with the rugby.


The try/convert is among the oldest parts of the game of gridiron football and dates to its rugby roots. In its earliest days, scoring a touchdown was not the primary objective but a means of getting a free kick at the goal (hence why the name "try," more commonly associated with rugby today, is still used in American football rule books), and thus early scoring rubrics for the game gave more points to the subsequent kick than the actual advancement of the ball into the end zone. The related term "conversion" is still used in both rugby union and rugby league to refer to extra points scored by kicking the ball through the posts after a try has been scored.

By the start of the 20th century, touchdowns had become more important and the roles of touchdown and kick were reversed. By this time the point value for the after-touchdown kick had reduced to its current one-point value while the touchdown was now worth five. (This later increased to six points in American football in 1912 and in Canadian football in 1956.)<sup class="Template-Fact" style="white-space:nowrap;">[citation needed]</sup>

Although a successful kick is only worth one point, missing one can decide the outcome of the game. Perhaps the most famous example to this was the 2003 game between the New Orleans Saints and Jacksonville Jaguars where, after scoring a touchdown as time expired as a result of the multiple-lateral River City Relay, Saints kicker John Carney missed the extra point, giving the Jaguars a 20-19 victory and eliminating the Saints from playoff contention. On November 11, 1979 the New York Jets lost to the Buffalo Bills 14-12 - the difference coming from two missed extra points by place kicker Toni Linhart. Linhart never played another game in the NFL.

Another 2003 game, this one between the Carolina Panthers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, was sent to overtime after what would have been a game-winning extra point was blocked; the Panthers won the game in overtime 12-9. A 2005 game between the Green Bay Packers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers is another notable exception, as the Buccaneers won 17-16, the difference being Ryan Longwell missing an extra point after a Packers touchdown.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[1]</sup>



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DiaperBoy27 01-20-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10383130)
This proposal would bring into question any FG attempts from that distance. Why would they not get that same status as being automatic?

Extra points are kicked from the exact middle of the field on the 2-yard-line. Field goals are kicked from where the play ended or one of the hash marks. With the angle, its a tougher kick (although not as tough as in college, which always confused me a bit)

cosmo20002 01-20-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10383141)
Yeah, the sentence structure is weird in that quoted bit. What they mean is that when you score a TD you get 6 points. After that you can accept a free 1 point (for 7) and go kick off, or decide to run a 2 point play under current rules (for 8). If your play fails, you are left with the points you scored for a TD (6) and you go kick off.

OK. But really the end result is still pretty much taking points off the board. You've got the free point in your pocket. But fail on your extra-extra point, you lose the free point you had.

But, I suppose the current kicking of the EP is about the same as a free point when they make it 99.9% of the time. Going for two is about like taking a free one off the board. Hmmm...

So it's about the same deal but "seems" different.

Raiderhater 01-20-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10383162)
Field goals at this distance are not nearly as prevalent as extra points. Further, the field goal is for three points, where the extra point is just one point.

You make it sound like 1 point ain't no big deal.


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