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Gadzooks 06-27-2014 01:10 AM
Wow!!! That pisses me off. I was hearing great things about Jones during mini-camp. I can't believe they put him on waivers.

You guys got a steal. Great move by Dorsey.

TEX 06-27-2014 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10717727)
We have more holes than in Blackburn Lancashire.



Any old enough to get that?
:clap: Good one!

Not quite 4000 at One Arrowhead but it might seem like it this season....

permachief 06-27-2014 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10718097)
Brandon Jones

Bio: Two-year starter who finished with 41 tackles/5 interceptions/9 pass breakups as a senior after 35/2/4 the prior year.

Positive: Big cornerback best in zone coverage. Works to keep the action in front of him, effectively tracks the pass in the air, and shows a nice move to the throw. Solid run defender who wraps up when tackling. Works well with safeties.

Negative: Loses speed transitioning off the line to run downfield with opponents. Struggles in man coverage. Bites on ball fakes and double moves.

Analysis: Jones is a big defensive back who struggles making plays with his back to the ball. He projects as a ninth defensive back at the next level if he proves his worth on special teams.
Maybe he is better suited for S rather then CB.

Three7s 06-27-2014 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10718113)
Wow!!! That pisses me off. I was hearing great things about Jones during mini-camp. I can't believe they put him on waivers.

You guys got a steal. Great move by Dorsey.
Is this a troll post? He doesn't fit in with what the Chiefs do at all...

Aspengc8 06-27-2014 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10718181)
Is this a troll post? He doesn't fit in with what the Chiefs do at all...
care to elaborate on that a bit? The kid has the physical tools, let him get coached up a bit and see what he can do.

Straight, No Chaser 06-27-2014 07:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10717727)
We have more holes than in Blackburn Lancashire.



Any old enough to get that?
Yep, and I just ordered the book "A Hard Day's Write" too. Thanks.

Three7s 06-27-2014 07:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 10718197)
care to elaborate on that a bit? The kid has the physical tools, let him get coached up a bit and see what he can do.
The Chiefs defensive scheme is based on man coverage. According to the scouts, he's bad in man coverage and is mostly useful in a zone.

Simply Red 06-27-2014 07:37 AM
Jeff Linkenbach

TEX 06-27-2014 07:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10718207)
The Chiefs defensive scheme is based on man coverage. According to the scouts, he's bad in man coverage and is mostly useful in a zone.
Yep. I dont like the idea that he loses speed when his back is to the ball...He has good size but doesn't seem to have the quickness and / or cover skills to play effectively in the Chiefs scheme. We dont really know how they plan on using him and he might be fine in zone and special teams....

Dunerdr 06-27-2014 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10718229)
Yep. I dont like the idea that he loses speed when his back is to the ball...He has good size but doesn't seem to have the quickness and / or cover skills to play effectively in the Chiefs scheme. We dont really know how they plan on using him and he might be fine in zone and special teams....
Some coaching can help his transition a little. Physical size and ability cannot be taught the rest can to an extent. But wasn't footwork off the line the knock on commings coming out? Maybe they think he can be another hybrid guy .

Aspengc8 06-27-2014 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10718207)
The Chiefs defensive scheme is based on man coverage. According to the scouts, he's bad in man coverage and is mostly useful in a zone.
Sean Smith is pretty 'meh' in man coverage also. Maybe they are looking to run more fire/zone concept than cover 1 man.

alanm 06-27-2014 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10717727)
We have more holes than in Blackburn Lancashire.



Any old enough to get that?
Yes.

Coogs 06-27-2014 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10718097)
Brandon Jones

Bio: Two-year starter who finished with 41 tackles/5 interceptions/9 pass breakups as a senior after 35/2/4 the prior year.

Positive: Big cornerback best in zone coverage. Works to keep the action in front of him, effectively tracks the pass in the air, and shows a nice move to the throw. Solid run defender who wraps up when tackling. Works well with safeties.

Negative: Loses speed transitioning off the line to run downfield with opponents. Struggles in man coverage. Bites on ball fakes and double moves.

Analysis: Jones is a big defensive back who struggles making plays with his back to the ball. He projects as a ninth defensive back at the next level if he proves his worth on special teams.
ninth defensive back?

The Franchise 06-27-2014 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 10718498)
ninth defensive back?
5th CB.

Coogs 06-27-2014 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10718530)
5th CB.
Ok. That makes more sense. I thought maybe he was only good in the 2-9 formation.


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