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Titty Meat 08-07-2014 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10800354)
Cyrus Gray has enough of an intact body to suck, at least.

**** Joe McKnight.
He was part of the reason we lost the Colts game.

McKnight can play special teams.

Halfcan 08-07-2014 02:55 PM
So he is predicting we start the season with a rookie kicker and rookie back up QB's to start the season...oh and the youngest O line in the NFL?

Bold predictions since they have not played a down yet.

RealSNR 08-07-2014 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10800361)
He was part of the reason we lost the Colts game.

McKnight can play special teams.
No, McKnight can't play special teams.

He can sit in a wheelchair with a feeding tube down his throat. He's never able-bodied.

That's like saying our backup QBs suck. Bring in Brodie Croyle.

Rain Man 08-07-2014 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10800346)
Heres what I dont get about the "shitty receivers" line... how can they be that shitty when this offense put up 35 ppg the last seven games?

Sure, Charles alleviates some of that pressure.

But that doesnt account for all those points, this unheralded group is better than advertised... am I saying we're fine, lets stand pat? Hell NO, I wanted something done here - hello Brandin Cooks - but lets not pretend this current group didnt help get us those 35+.

Throw in some growth from a guy like Jenkins or Hemingway, or a big step from a Hammond or Wilson and things dont seem so bad... everyone knows what Reid has done with no name receivers, with him, big names like TO might help, but they arent a requirement.
Back when we had the most hellacious offense on wheels, our top wide receivers were Eddie Kennison and Johnny Morton. Sometimes I think receivers are overrated. Granted, the game has changed, but winning teams are often those that go against the grain of what everyone else is doing. Since everyone else is throwing the ball, maybe the Chiefs should run it this year.

KCrockaholic 08-07-2014 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10800361)
He was part of the reason we lost the Colts game.

McKnight can play special teams.
You're full of shit. Cyrus Gray did nothing in that game to hinder the Chiefs.

AND GUESS WHAT, CYRUS GRAY PLAYS SPECIAL TEAMS.

htismaqe 08-07-2014 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10800356)
There were talks that Berry was spending a good amount of time as the deep safety.
We can only hope.

Mr. Laz 08-07-2014 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10800346)
Heres what I dont get about the "shitty receivers" line... how can they be that shitty when this offense put up 35 ppg the last seven games?
we don't have a single receiver that puts fear into a defense. Bowe used to, maybe he still can ... but most of last year he didn't. Avery was our #1 wr for most of the year. Let that sink in for awhile.

Charles is the only skill guy on our offense that would start for most other teams.

Sum is greater than the parts.

Which is fine, but at some point we are going to need some pass catchers that can dictate the flow of the game.

Easy 6 08-07-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10800368)
Back when we had the most hellacious offense on wheels, our top wide receivers were Eddie Kennison and Johnny Morton. Sometimes I think receivers are overrated.
Exactly, Vermeil never had a true scary ass #1 here... Kennison was very solid, but never struck me as a "keeps defensive coordinators awake at nights" guy.

He just knew how to use what he had, like Reid.

Laz, I get it, theres precious little flash and flair on this group right now... but I suppose I'll simply admit to trusting that Reid knows what he's doing with this offense... worst to first record, career year from a WCO noob QB etc.

Mr. Laz 08-07-2014 03:13 PM
I don't get the whole Joe McKnight thing.

If we are going young, then just do it.

The special teams/gadget RB position seems like the ideal place to bring in young athletes.

KCrockaholic 08-07-2014 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10800402)
I don't get the whole Joe McKnight thing.

If we are going young, then just do it.

The special teams/gadget RB position seems like the ideal place to bring in young athletes.
McKnight would offer nothing to this team considering he's a punt returner (that would never get an opportunity to return a punt) who couldn't play the up man position during punt block protection like Gray does, and McKnight is always hurt. Gray is also 24. McKnight is 26. There's nothing left to say

Mr. Laz 08-07-2014 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10800391)
Exactly, Vermeil never had a true scary ass #1 here... Kennison was very solid, but never struck me as a "keeps defensive coordinators awake at nights" guy.

He just knew how to use what he had, like Reid.

Laz, I get it, theres precious little flash and flair on this group right now... but I suppose I'll simply admit to trusting that Reid knows what he's doing with this offense... worst to first record, career year from a WCO noob QB etc.
no doubt ... Reid was the reason the offense worked. Now we need to find receivers that can make Reid's offense run better. Receivers that force a defense to play the entire field and not cheat.

Imagine Charles in an offense where the defense had to keep both safeties 15 yards deep because they couldn't cover our WRs 1-on-1.

Eleazar 08-07-2014 03:23 PM
I agree with others here, the secondary looks to be a huge problem.

I can't think of anything less appetizing than watching this secondary get roasted all season long

KCrockaholic 08-07-2014 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10800429)
I agree with others here, the secondary looks to be a huge problem.

I can't think of anything less appetizing than watching this secondary get roasted all season long
Well, let's see how Ron Parker looks tonight. He played well last year in his spot duty. Let's see if Cooper can be a playmaker with those WR hands.

Chris Owens to me, isn't anything more than what Javier Arenas was defensively.

The safeties are fine though. Abdullah is a solid upgrade over Kendra Lewis.

Eleazar 08-07-2014 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 10800444)
Well, let's see how Ron Parker looks tonight. He played well last year in his spot duty. Let's see if Cooper can be a playmaker with those WR hands.

Chris Owens to me, isn't anything more than what Javier Arenas was defensively.

The safeties are fine though. Abdullah is a solid upgrade over Kendra Lewis.
I hope you are right, but we're counting on all these guys to take a pretty significant step forward this year.

I think Berry is going to be fine if he's used according to his strengths. Abdullah is definitely an upgrade and he's a good guy to have on your roster, but I don't really think he's a starter in the NFL on a good defense.

htismaqe 08-07-2014 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 10800444)
Well, let's see how Ron Parker looks tonight. He played well last year in his spot duty. Let's see if Cooper can be a playmaker with those WR hands.

Chris Owens to me, isn't anything more than what Javier Arenas was defensively.

The safeties are fine though. Abdullah is a solid upgrade over Kendra Lewis.
We're not going to learn anything about Ron Parker tonight.


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