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Lorenzo Cain got screwed out of a Gold Glove (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=287762)

BigRedChief

10-23-2014 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 11043938)

Cain will win the Gold Glove next year based on this year's performance in the playoffs. It's a reputation thing.

Correct, the Gold Glove is always a year or more behind performance. Yadi has always been the best defensive catcher in baseball since day 1. He didn't get a Gold glove until like year 3 or 4.

He will win next year.

Simplicity

10-23-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 11044814)

Because he's unreal in the field.

Not really.

cosmo20002

10-23-2014 11:01 PM

Well, here's one sure answer as to why Cain wasn't among the finalists--he wasn't qualified.

I ran across an article about the Gold Glove award, which is run by Rawlings. It said that the Gold Glove rules are that a player must have played 95 games and 713 innings at his position by the 141st game of the season.

By the 141st game, Cain only had 77 games in Center and 609 innings, so he was well short in both categories.
For the whole season he only had 93 games and 723 innings.

And, there's your explanation. He just didn't play enough in center, and it wasn't just shifting over to right in the later innings. He was well short of the games requirement.

Bob Dole

10-23-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 11043875)

How is he even not a finalist. Like seriously whoever votes for these finalists are ****ing reeruned.

Saw that earlier and thought the same thing...

Pablo

10-23-2014 11:09 PM

Post #33 tells the deal, folks.

cmh6476

10-23-2014 11:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> fans, here's why Lorenzo Cain isn't a <a href="https://twitter.com/RawlingsSports">@RawlingsSports</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoldGlove?src=hash">#GoldGlove</a> finalist: <a href="http://t.co/B7Pv8sNkMq">http://t.co/B7Pv8sNkMq</a></p>— robneyer (@robneyer) <a href="https://twitter.com/robneyer/status/525398816741412865">October 23, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just Passin' By

10-23-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11044600)

I ****ing knew this post word for word before I even clicked the thread.

You're a ****ing pillowbitergot, and your ****ing Boston teams are all cheating ****s you Spygate pussy piece of shit.

I hope you die by getting hit be an AIDS train captain'd by Scott Pioli you ****ing homo

Jackie Bradley Jr is the biggest AIDS infested piece of shit I know. Terrible. Nice $160M last place team. At least we get to the WS the right way, instead of buying our way there with STEROIDS infested players like Ortiz and Manny.

Boston hasn't won a legit championship in like, well, ever. Get AIDS.

Go **** yourself.

Jackie Bradley Junior couldn't hit water if you dropped him in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. He was still the best defensive center fielder in baseball this past year, you asshat.

cosmo20002

10-23-2014 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11045641)

This article says:
"Bottom line, Cain's not a finalist because he ranked just 12th in the American League in innings at the position in question."

That's not true. Its not his innings played ranking, it is that he didn't have enough innings to qualify (or games).

Its a relatively new rule, enacted when guys were winning while hardly playing any games at the position. It was strictly a vote, and guys were winning just on reputation.

tk13	10-23-2014 11:32 PM

Kevin Kiermaier of TB only played like 70 games and 500 innings in RF and he got nominated though.

cosmo20002

10-24-2014 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11045670)

Kevin Kiermaier of TB only played like 70 games and 500 innings in RF and he got nominated though.

Here's the article I saw that discussed the qualifications. It was just written last year. It does mention that they might change the games AND innings requirement to OR. But Kiermaier would still seem to fall short.

All I can think of is that the requirements are skewed for players who aren't on the roster (it looks like Kiermaier was a later call-up). Maybe he qualified because he played in a sufficient percentage of the games he was on the roster. I can't locate 2014 rules, so this is the best I have to go on.

http://www.mercurynews.com/athletics...nge-gold-glove

kysirsoze

10-24-2014 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11043913)

who cares?

we have Gordon/Cain/Dyson/Hosmer/Moose and Salvy...sometimes all on the field at the same time...and that's not even mentioning Escobar.

Our defense is the best ever.

This. **** a Gold Glove. We've got those. World Series is all that matters. He'll get one next year.

teedubya

10-24-2014 01:23 AM

I'm sure he is cool with his MVP trophy.

MIAdragon

10-24-2014 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 11044995)

Not really.

Yea, ok.

Saul Good

10-24-2014 08:54 AM

Raphael Palmiero won the GG in 1999 despite playing only 28 games at 1b and 135 at DH.

Chiefshrink

10-24-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 11043883)

Adam Jones can enjoy gold on his hand. LoCain will take the gold around his ring finger.

Precisely:clap:

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