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lcarus 10-31-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11074333)
Do you want the list? Or just a general explanation?

Whatever you feel like I guess.

notorious 10-31-2014 06:59 PM

He was slow and couldn't make people miss.

Thank ****ing goodness he is with another team. Think about it: We replaced JAG with De'Anthony Thomas.

OldSchool 10-31-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11074152)
There is nothing wrong with mccluster. There is something wrong with the idiots using him.

Mccluster became an excellent hands receiver. The decision to move him back into a utility role was beyond stupid. Put him back into a slot and think of him as a receiver instead of a gadget receiver, and he will be an effective receiver for your team.

They already have afar superior slot receiver in Wright, why would they move him out for McCluster?

RealSNR 10-31-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 11074335)
Whatever you feel like I guess.

1. He was a ****ing awful and ill-timed pick in 2010, and everybody and their ****ing grandmother knew this except for Pioli and Haley. Jamaal Charles had just shown what he could do if you just gave him the damn ball. We had just signed Thomas Jones. We had dudes on the roster who could be kick returners no problem. He NEVER ****ing fit on this team

2. That being said, this franchise operated under the false notion that if you just got him the ball in space, he'd be effective. Well no ****ing shit. If you gave the ball to Mike ****ing DeVito in space, HE would be effective. The point is that the "space" they could find was always on the outside edge as a bubble screen or out of the backfield. Which leads me to...

3. He ****ing sucked getting out of trouble. He was easily tackled if you got a finger on him. He WASN'T even that fast. Jamaal Charles had far more breakaway speed and at least 18 times the vision as a ballcarrier. He had okay hands, which is why we thought he'd make a decent slot receiver, but he never ****ing learned that position until Andy Reid came to town, and even then, it was as a possession guy on 3rd down out of the slot. NOT as the downfield burner to complement Dwayne Bowe, which Haley and Pioli thought he could learn to be.

4. Haley's offense sucked for many reasons, but most of that had to do with idiotic ****ing plays DESIGNED to get McCluster the ball. It took touches away from Charles and Bowe... the two best players in the division at the time of getting yards after the catch/carry, and gave them to this overrated worthless midget who would 90% of the time get tackled in the backfield like a ****ing chump loser asshole. And the play was DRAWN UP that way. That's the only way we could ever get McCluster the ball was in his SPECIAL ****ING PLAY 4 or 5 times per game. He was never there to try to bail out Cassel or be an option to turn to when we needed him like a good receiver/playmaker SHOULD be.

In summary, we HAD what we were looking for out of McCluster in Jamaal Charles. Everybody knew it in 2010 when the pick was made. Except for Pioli and Haley. He represents everything clueless and blind about that Patriot Way regime just like Cassel does. McCluster embodied it perfectly. He was Pioli's bullshit boy ENTITLED to X touches a game because the idiots on the coaching staff and in the front office never stopped believing in the McCluster myth.

And that's ****ing infuriating.

notorious 10-31-2014 07:16 PM

I thought he would be good after watching him in college.


Holy shit was I wrong.

mcaj22 10-31-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11074192)
He had one season in KC in which he was more of a help than he was a hindrance, and even then he was easily replaced by DeAnthony Thomas out of the backfield. Soon we'll be able to line up Thomas in the slot on more downs.

****, Joe ****ing McKnight's game against the Dolphins was the kind of game that Haley envisioned when he drafted McCluster. And that was better than any game we've ever seen out of McCluster.

Dex is by far my 2nd most hated Chief of the Pioli era, and for a good reason. Worthless ****stick midget reerun.

are Stanford Routt and Jon Baldwin tied for first?

Easy 6 10-31-2014 07:23 PM

He made All Pro, everything else is just empty shit being thrown around like some angry monkey.

SNR, you're right that he had to be schemed into offensive success... but dont deny that once a good staff came aboard, he produced at an All Pro level, I mean, I totally agree that we're better off these days.

But you're blaming the player for his draft position, that isnt fair at all... particularly when you consider that in his third year he made the ultimate list.

SNR, out-crotchetying Milkman since 2014.

Direckshun 10-31-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11074368)
are Stanford Routt and Jon Baldwin tied for first?

Mike Brown?

Ryan O'Callaghan?

Andy Studebaker?

Bobby Wade?

Direckshun 10-31-2014 07:42 PM

Tony Moeaki?

Javier Arenas?

Direckshun 10-31-2014 07:42 PM

MATT CASSEL?

notorious 10-31-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11074368)
are Stanford Routt and Jon Baldwin tied for first?

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11074389)
Mike Brown?

Ryan O'Callaghan?

Andy Studebaker?

Bobby Wade?

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11074390)
Tony Moeaki?

Javier Arenas?

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11074391)
MATT CASSEL?

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chiefzilla1501 10-31-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11074373)
He made All Pro, everything else is just empty shit being thrown around like some angry monkey.

SNR, you're right that he had to be schemed into offensive success... but dont deny that once a good staff came aboard, he produced at an All Pro level, I mean, I totally agree that we're better off these days.

But you're blaming the player for his draft position, that isnt fair at all... particularly when you consider that in his third year he made the ultimate list.

SNR, out-crotchetying Milkman since 2014.

He had a big fourth quarter catch in almost every game the second half of the season. Some really tough ones too. His hands were surprisingly excellent. Once the chiefs stopped using him as a gadget and started using him as a possession receiver, he played excellent. If he was playing hemmingways role this year, he would be an excellent option for kc.

Whisenhunt wants him to be randle el. He needs to be Ricky proehl.

RealSNR 10-31-2014 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11074373)
He made All Pro, everything else is just empty shit being thrown around like some angry monkey.

SNR, you're right that he had to be schemed into offensive success... but dont deny that once a good staff came aboard, he produced at an All Pro level, I mean, I totally agree that we're better off these days.

But you're blaming the player for his draft position, that isnt fair at all... particularly when you consider that in his third year he made the ultimate list.

SNR, out-crotchetying Milkman since 2014.

You're ignoring all the times I observed last season that Andy Reid finally figured out what to do with him as a 3rd down short-mid possession receiver out of the slot. That doesn't in any way shape or form relate to designed plays, trickery out of the backfield, or relying on "speed." Reid figured out that McCluster had average speed, a silly-looking spin move, and that's it, so he used him in a way that made him actually useful to the team for once in his shitty career.

Now Whisenhunt is copying Haley's ineffective gameplan for McCluster. He's trying to re-Todd.

Never go full re-Todd

Hootie 11-01-2014 11:42 AM

Coulda had Arrelious Benn

Hammock Parties 11-01-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11075082)
Coulda had Arrelious Benn

We've been over this.

McCluster was maybe the 10th best player in that round.

We don't miss him at ALL.

Nate Allen
T.J. Ward
Koa Misi
Rob Gronkowski
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Golden Tate
Carlos Dunlap
Ben Tate
Brandon Spikes

All those guys would have more value to this team right now.

I also find it hilarious our third down offense is MUCH better without him. The guy was basically useless at everything but exciting the fan base over bullshit.


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