I think that's a reasonable discussion to have. Did the scouts make a mistake in their talent judging?

In my world, I think need plays a significant role. So if I have some WRs close to an OLB in my individual rankings and my talent is thin at WR and thick at OLB, I go WR.

In Dorsey's world, his team either rated the WRs way lower, or they put no stock on need and always go for BPA. I'm really curious which one it is.

I really hope he works out bc guys like Benjamin, Carr, Matthews and Bridgewater look good and have high potential for the future.

Who was the guy who compared Dee Ford to Vernon Gholston prior to the season and got shit on? I always thought that comparison was absolutely valid. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

Bingo.

I get what Rainman is saying and I get the reasoning behind why Dorsey picked Ford, but based on what we got so far there is no indication Ford will be a good replacement for Hali.

Im sure Ford was expected to have much more reps by now along with good enough play that the move from Hali to Ford would be welcomed by everyone. Now it looks like moving on from a declining Hali will be a downgrade. Early on for sure.

Carr and Bridgewater have looked good, eh?

Carr got benched on a 1-10 team for Matt Schaub yesterday

You guys do realize that Sutton does not substitute, right.

Hali has not left the field when formation calls for him to be on it.
Poe hasn't had a play off in like 6 weeks.
until Sutton learns to substitute, Ford will not see the field.

Sutton doesn't substitute because the second string sucks at every position.

There's nobody that can take Poe's spot. Or Houston's. Or Hali's.

This.

And for sake of argument, let's say Sutton doesn't substitute regardless of who the backups are.

Why did we spend a R1 pick on a guy that would never play?

The plan apparently must be to let Hali walk this offseason, or said R1 pick will still be riding the bench in year 2.

Point number 2 is valid
How the f*** would he know whether point number 1 is or not if mother****ers never see the field.

Sutton needs to be shown the door.

And regardless of who the back ups are, players need plays off, and reserves needs snaps to improve.
again, Sutton needs to go.

"But his first step off the snap..."

You know who else had an elite first step off the snap that you just can't teach?

R-Kal Truluck.

And just in case Wallcrawler is following me around, let that be an insult to Dee Ford.

Fired coach
no running game
average at best receivers
average at best OL

Dumpster fire organization. And he's on pace for 3,200 passing yards and 19 TD's.

As a rookie. In Oakland aka the worst place to play in the entire league.