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tk13 12-02-2014 07:20 PM

Manning struggled with the wind, and the cold. That's the only flaw with saying we should've thrown more deep balls the other night. Conditions weren't really favorable for it. I don't think Manning hit on a single one of those deep balls. Of course we came out and threw one first play, and they rammed it down our throat.

Manning can be robotic. That's why Crennel has so much success against him, just keep everything in front and force him to take the smart, safe play. We actually did the anti-Crennel... played man to man every down and like a robot, Manning just threw fade after fade after fade trying to beat it. He couldn't hit one of them. Last year he did hit all those throws and that's why he absolutely torched us in Arrowhead.

Ragged Robin 12-02-2014 08:00 PM

Our corners aren't good enough to win one-on-one consistently so Sutton plays them back, the mentality is to give them stuff underneath and trust their ability to tackle and limit YAC. Honestly the secondary did enough but the donkies were able to run it down our throat and absolutely demolish time of possession. Sutton's D is pretty soft... need a more stout nose tackle to stuff the run (Poe should come in pass-rush situations and be spelled by a fatty run stuffer instead of play 100% of the snaps like he did in this game) or an enforcer/big hitter type in the middle of the field (yes, we do miss having Derek Johnson)

Rausch 12-02-2014 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11163108)
Manning struggled with the wind, and the cold. That's the only flaw with saying we should've thrown more deep balls the other night. Conditions weren't really favorable for it. I don't think Manning hit on a single one of those deep balls. Of course we came out and threw one first play, and they rammed it down our throat.

Manning can be robotic. That's why Crennel has so much success against him, just keep everything in front and force him to take the smart, safe play. We actually did the anti-Crennel... played man to man every down and like a robot, Manning just threw fade after fade after fade trying to beat it. He couldn't hit one of them. Last year he did hit all those throws and that's why he absolutely torched us in Arrowhead.

You can't go 3 and out 3 consecutive times vs. an offense like Denver's.

It's asking for trouble and it's the exact opposite of what we did @ Denver. We got pass happy and weren't able to convert 3rd downs...

Saccopoo 12-02-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 11162729)
Sutton is terrible..... Chiefs radio was all over him for not adjusting.... He is a man to man coach and it will take quite a bit for Reid to fire him.

Idiot.

The Chiefs have the #9 defense in the NFL, and that's after losing two All-Pro's in Berry and Johnson along with one of the best run stopping DE's in DeVito.

He's been working with trash at the ILB and S positions all season long, throwing barely warm bodies at the CB position opposite of Smith and the Chiefs are still the #9 defense in the NFL.

TOP TEN DEFENSE.

And you think he's going to get fired because they lost to Manning?

Idiot.

Jimmya 12-02-2014 08:12 PM

Idiot is the guy that defends THE 1-15 raiders and donkeys ramming it down your a**. That's funny

Rausch 12-02-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11163106)
Sutton not making adjustments is pretty apparent the 2 years he's been here.

The second half we held them to FG's and not TD's.

Our offense never adjusted...

Jimmya 12-02-2014 08:22 PM

It's funny as hell... Sacc talking about top 10 defense..... Meanwhile chiefs are 30th in rush defense. Of course nobody passes because they don't have to when the can run at will.

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 11163214)
It's funny as hell... Sacc talking about top 10 defense..... Meanwhile chiefs are 30th in rush defense. Of course nobody passes because they don't have to when the can run at will.

Talk about making up arguments just to fit your point.

Sac was actually understating it. The Chiefs are the #4 ranked points defense. They are giving up 7.5 points in the second halves of games, which is outstanding. But yeah, we'll cherry pick the one stat that doesn't look good.

Jimmya 12-02-2014 08:33 PM

It isn't cherry picking to figure out that the lowly Raiders who just got beat by 50 rammed it up our ass.

Jimmya 12-02-2014 08:36 PM

Trey Wingo "it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the Cardinals will take the ball out of Stanton's hands and run the ball this week."

Aspengc8 12-02-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11163106)
Sutton not making adjustments is pretty apparent the 2 years he's been here.

we lost to the faiders
we lost to the donks


you just chalking that all up to 'poor us ... injuries'?


everyone not making excuses is a moron?

How do YOU know he is not making adjustments? Are you breaking down film to know for sure? All the adjustments in the world will not make up for poor execution.

Deberg_1990 12-02-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11163172)
You can't go 3 and out 3 consecutive times vs. an offense like Denver's.

It's asking for trouble and it's the exact opposite of what we did @ Denver. We got pass happy and weren't able to convert 3rd downs...

Give some credit to Denver. They did a good job of bottling up Charles when he did get the ball. The Broncos are just better than the Chiefs right now. It's ok to admit it.


Losing to the Titans and Raiders are the ones that will haunt the Chiefs this year.

Reerun_KC 12-02-2014 09:35 PM

Sutton is a joke. Not surprised there are reeruns defending him.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-02-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11163334)
Sutton is a joke. Not surprised there are reeruns defending him.

We....agree?

Psyko Tek 12-02-2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 11162729)
Sutton is terrible..... Chiefs radio was all over him for not adjusting.... He is a man to man coach and it will take quite a bit for Reid to fire him.

sutton is the andy reid of DC's


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