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Dave Lane 01-02-2015 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 11238220)
I just got one of my favorite snacks for Xmas and I'm not throwing them away.


JELLY BELLIES!!!!!!!

**** yeah! Twin Cherries too FTMFW!

In58men 01-02-2015 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11238669)
**** yeah! Twin Cherries too FTMFW!

DOTS are my second fave

ThaVirus 01-02-2015 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 11238665)
Watch the documentary, Fed Up. It will infuriate you, how systematically the food industry adds salt and sugar to food to make you crave more of it.

Since I watched that on Oct 30th, I've cut all excess sugar, no sugary drinks, no processed sugar or white carbs... and I'm down 21.8 pounds.

I worked out ZERO times to see the effects without working out. Great jump start to the New Year.

-tw


The average American has no idea how important diet is to weight loss and body composition.

You can neutralize like 8 hours of working out with one shitty ass meal.

EPodolak 01-03-2015 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 11238665)
Watch the documentary, Fed Up. It will infuriate you, how systematically the food industry adds salt and sugar to food to make you crave more of it.

Since I watched that on Oct 30th, I've cut all excess sugar, no sugary drinks, no processed sugar or white carbs... and I'm down 21.8 pounds.

I worked out ZERO times to see the effects without working out. Great jump start to the New Year.

-tw

According to that movie, a rat addicted to cocaine and to sugar will choose to get his sugar fix first.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...-story-top.jpg

BucEyedPea 01-03-2015 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11238181)
Exercise and weight lifting creates inflammation too. I suppose I'll stop that as well.

Link?

BucEyedPea 01-03-2015 04:01 AM

Just looking up lewdog's claim
 
Hmmm inflammation and exercise—sounds like apples and oranges dog. Not the same thing.
Exercise and Chronic Inflammation

Systemic inflammation is a critical component in the development of cardiovascular disease. Individuals with chronic inflammation often have high levels of C-reactive protein -- a biomarker that correlates with the amount of inflammation in the body. Elevated C-reactive protein levels are significantly reduced in individuals who engage in moderate to intense physical activity compared to those who do not exercise.

Process of Inflammation

Youi can separate inflammation into two categories, acute inflammation which occurs over a short period of time and chronic inflammation which happens over longer time frames. Acute inflammation happens immediately following an injury. Blood flow will increase in the area around the injury, and fluid, blood proteins and white blood cells will move into the tissue. Inflammation is generally part of a healthy immune response; however, sometimes this process becomes uncontrolled. This may lead to a state of chronic inflammation that can trigger the development of diseases like atherosclerosis and cancer.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/45...n-in-the-body/
Sugar is now being found to be a factor in cardiovascular disease—less so fat. ( healthy fat that is). Plus sugar, as well as artificial sweeteners, make the body more acidic. PH balance is important.

Pepe Silvia 01-03-2015 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Losses (Post 11237972)
You know what's bad for you?

Eating more calories than you burn.

The rest is bullshit.

This.

lewdog 01-03-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11238957)
Link?

You don't need a link for that, it's how the body works. And you clearly linked an article that states exercise causes inflammation. So does eating sugar. How much you eat of it determine how long the inflammation process lasts, kind of like how long you workout for or the intensity at which you do effects how long the inflammation lasts. It is somewhat similar. Nothing should be done to the max. Whether that's eating sugar or working out.

I do both. Anyone that says they avoid sugar altogether is completely lying. In fact, our body does need some amount of sugar to function at it's best. Insulin is an anabolic component in the body. I workout to build muscle. Causing an insulin spike post workout to increase the glycogen re-absorption and protein into the muscles post workout is ideal. I do this with a handful of candy or milk. It's not a huge spike like many think but it's done and done for a reason. Sugar will not cause issues for you unless you are just eating shit all day.

lewdog 01-03-2015 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 11238665)
Watch the documentary, Fed Up. It will infuriate you, how systematically the food industry adds salt and sugar to food to make you crave more of it.

Since I watched that on Oct 30th, I've cut all excess sugar, no sugary drinks, no processed sugar or white carbs... and I'm down 21.8 pounds.

I worked out ZERO times to see the effects without working out. Great jump start to the New Year.

-tw

That's simply because you are eating less calories. Sugary drinks can be a big culprit because they provide no nutritional value but take up way too much of a person's calorie intake for the day. Remove the 400-500 calories you might be getting from these drinks and replace with diet drinks or water and you'll lose weight. It's not because of the sugar.

lewdog 01-03-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by EPodolak (Post 11238954)
According to that movie, a rat addicted to cocaine and to sugar will choose to get his sugar fix first.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...-story-top.jpg

It's been mentioned before but rat studies are pretty much worthless. The rat judges it's eating based on it's brain's/body's reward response as it cannot rationalize. And while I love pizza and Oreos as much as the next guy, my brain is a human brain with rational thought and I know the consequences of eating an entire pizza everyday will make me fat. Therefore I choose other foods, since I can also read about nutrition values of food and make informed decisions.

We are humans, we CAN and SHOULD make rational decisions about food. We SHOULD also stop blaming food companies when the average American consumer won't take the time to be even slightly educated about food or how to even read of food label.

Cmd'r&Chief 01-03-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11239026)

We are humans, we CAN and SHOULD make rational decisions about food. We SHOULD also stop blaming food companies when the average American consumer won't take the time to be even slightly educated about food or how to even read of food label.

Don't blame the food companies? This guy works for ****ing Nabisco

BucEyedPea 01-03-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11239011)
You don't need a link for that,

There's nothing wrong with asking you to back up your claim.

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it's how the body works. And you clearly linked an article that states exercise causes inflammation. So does eating sugar.
Then you need to re read it. There's more to your oversimplified statement.Quit ignoring that to make a strawman argument.

Systemic inflammation is a critical component in the development of cardiovascular disease. Individuals with chronic inflammation often have high levels of C-reactive protein -- a biomarker that correlates with the amount of inflammation in the body. Elevated C-reactive protein levels are significantly reduced in individuals who engage in moderate to intense physical activity compared to those who do not exercise...

Inflammation is generally part of a healthy immune response; however, sometimes this process becomes uncontrolled. This may lead to a state of chronic inflammation that can trigger the development of diseases like atherosclerosis and cancer.
Yes it is now linked to heart disease too.

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Sugar will not cause issues for you unless you are just eating shit all day.
Again, you need to re read what I posted even earlier. I said sugar needs to be moderated.

And I'd add there's more to sugar than inflammation issues.

ShortRoundChief 01-03-2015 10:12 AM

What if said such sugar is poured on you?

Then is it bad?

BucEyedPea 01-03-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11239025)
That's simply because you are eating less calories. Sugary drinks can be a big culprit because they provide no nutritional value but take up way too much of a person's calorie intake for the day. Remove the 400-500 calories you might be getting from these drinks and replace with diet drinks or water and you'll lose weight. It's not because of the sugar.

Really? So if you eat 400-500 calories of cake and ice cream or cookies it's also not because of the sugar?

The excess calories come from the sugar in these drinks unless it's a cream based sugary drink then it comes from both.

BucEyedPea 01-03-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11239026)
It's been mentioned before but rat studies are pretty much worthless. The rat judges it's eating based on it's brain's/body's reward response as it cannot rationalize.

Not all humans can rationalize or well enough. If we did, we wouldn't have an epidemic of obesity in this country not to mention adult diabetes.


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