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AustinChief 01-16-2015 11:15 PM

If by "fixed" you mean downfield passing then yes. He has proven that he can hit open WRs downfield. We just never have any. It won't be a wide open offense because that isn't what we run and we don't have the O-line for it anyway. Our #1 priority has to be WR that can get consistent SEPARATION if we expect to have any success with Smith. Bowe is not that guy, never has been.

If we get the WRs we need and Smith still falters than that's fine, we should (if we aren't idiots) have someone groomed to step in by then. If the QBs we have now (Bray, Murray) look like they can't do it we need to look at drafting another in the 3rd this year.

O.city 01-16-2015 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11273344)
Can't get caught paying big money to a free agent receiver unless you are POSITIVE he can come right into your system and be a cost effective use of resources.

I don't think anyone that will be available matches that description.

Maybe Maclin if the cost is 7-8 per year...but I think he can get more somewhere that has a proven quarterback that throws to the perimeter.

Look at what Desean Jackson got and similar WRs.

I don't think Maclin and Cobb will break the bank my any means.

BossChief 01-16-2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11273328)
They won't ever win anything of importance if he doesn't atleast get the passing game in the top halfish of the league.

Not trying to make excuses here. Alex needs to grow a pair of nuts.

He seemed comfortable throwing deep to Avery in 2013...we need 2 receivers that can get open and be on time like he did.

I think it's possible.

I'm still on the fence with Alex Smith...haven't entirely given up on him yet.

BossChief 01-16-2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11273350)
Look at what Desean Jackson got and similar WRs.

I don't think Maclin and Cobb will break the bank my any means.

Jackson came with MAJOR red flags.

O.city 01-16-2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11273353)
Jackson came with MAJOR red flags.

But no injury history like Maclin.

BossChief 01-16-2015 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 11273348)
If by "fixed" you mean downfield passing then yes. He has proven that he can hit open WRs downfield. We just never have any. It won't be a wide open offense because that isn't what we run and we don't have the O-line for it anyway. Our #1 priority has to be WR that can get consistent SEPARATION if we expect to have any success with Smith. Bowe is not that guy, never has been.

If we get the WRs we need and Smith still falters than that's fine, we should (if we aren't idiots) have someone groomed to step in by then. If the QBs we have now (Bray, Murray) look like they can't do it we need to look at drafting another in the 3rd this year.

Nothing on this roster should keep them from drafting a quarterback in the third AT THE LATEST.

I'd be thrilled if they drafted a quarterback in the first.

DaneMcCloud 01-16-2015 11:21 PM

31 year athletes rarely change their spots.

I think his Buster Douglas moment was the Indy playoff game.

Then he went back to being Buster Douglas.

O.city 01-16-2015 11:22 PM

Same with Decker last year.

I just don't see Cobb or Maclin making more than 8 per.

AustinChief 01-16-2015 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11273360)
Nothing on this roster should keep them from drafting a quarterback in the third AT THE LATEST.

I'd be thrilled if they drafted a quarterback in the first.

Not sure there is one worth drafting in the 1st compared to WR value there. 2nd maybe... 3rd more likely... 4th and beyond is the same long shot garbage waste of a pick.

O.city 01-16-2015 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11273360)
Nothing on this roster should keep them from drafting a quarterback in the third AT THE LATEST.

I'd be thrilled if they drafted a quarterback in the first.

I don't think the value will be there for one in the first this year.

Maybe a guy like Hundley in the second or something though.

BossChief 01-16-2015 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11273361)
31 year athletes rarely change their spots.

I think his Buster Douglas moment was the Indy playoff game.

Then he went back to being Buster Douglas.

He played well against NO in the playoffs, too.

Vernon Davis will probably hit the open market and I expect us to try our best to land him in FA. He will probably be less than 5/yr on a short term deal and that opens things up for is to draft receivers.

What you say is possible, but it's also possible that once we upgrade 3 starting positions that we had f quality players at to guys that are cs and bs (maybe even get a steal with DGB and land an a on a 4 year cheap contract) that they guy can consistently play at a level higher than a typical game manager.

cdcox 01-16-2015 11:29 PM

Alex Smith has thrown to 3 WRs that have 1000 yard seasons but he has never thrown 1000 yards to a receiver in a season. Giving him WRs is a waste of money.

DaneMcCloud 01-16-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11273370)
He played well against NO in the playoffs, too.

Vernon Davis will probably hit the open market and I expect us to try our best to land him in FA. He will probably be less than 5/yr on a short term deal and that opens things up for is to draft receivers.

What you say is possible, but it's also possible that once we upgrade 3 starting positions that we had f quality players at to guys that are cs and bs (maybe even get a steal with DGB and land an a on a 4 year cheap contract) that they guy can consistently play at a level higher than a typical game manager.

I don't think that Alex Smith will ever be "bad". He's a great leader, great personality, hard working and smart. I think that 2011-2013 proved that he can be good. I just don't think he'll ever be great.

I truly hope I'm wrong.

O.city 01-16-2015 11:31 PM

They need WR's that can get quick separation (said ad nauseum around here). He didn't have a problem throwing to ALbert Wilson when he was open.

Just go get WR's. If he won't throw to them, find some one who can. Win Win.

BossChief 01-16-2015 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11273365)
I don't think the value will be there for one in the first this year.

Maybe a guy like Hundley in the second or something though.

Alex is 31. They need to try and drAft their high ceiling kid to sit and learn ala Rodgers.

I come into this year less prepared than most. Was very busy and didn't get to watch the qbs as much as I usually like to.

I like the prospect of Andy Reid being given a guy with top shelf tools to free up the cap space Chase Daniel takes up.


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