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pugsnotdrugs19 07-17-2015 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11603354)
Yeah, JJ Watt sucked last year.
I actually would dare say Houston has a better chance to actually BREAK the league record this year.

If you think, we have a better secondary on paper, which would make for more time to get after QB's.

We should hypothetically lead more games too, allowing for more pass rush opportunities late in games (much like week 17 vs. SD)

staylor26 07-17-2015 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11603351)
We can sit here and argue all day who is better between Houston and Miller, it's no use. They are both elite players who are on path's to Canton. Both will wind up with likely identical contracts, too.

The argument that will matter is the guys around them. We know those two are gonna wreak havoc if healthy, the question becomes who wins the battle of Hali/Ford/Bailey/Poe vs. Ware/Ray/Wolfe/Williams.
Exactly. Don't forget Howard though. He's going to be a difference maker also.

thabear04 07-17-2015 10:46 AM
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pugsnotdrugs19 07-17-2015 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11603364)
Exactly. Don't forget Howard though. He's going to be a difference maker also.
I actually think Catapono (if given snaps) might be our most effective rusher at DE, and that includes Bailey.

The group is stupid deep.

MTG#10 07-17-2015 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 11603329)
No that was him teaching Turk Mcbride. Ah the memories.
You sure? I could have sworn that was Tamba. Its been awhile since Ive watched it though. Oh well.

staylor26 07-17-2015 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11603370)
I actually think Catapono (if given snaps) might be our most effective rusher at DE, and that includes Bailey.

The group is stupid deep.
I agree Bailey, Howard and Cat should combine for at least 12 sacks.

TimBone 07-17-2015 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11603370)
I actually think Catapono (if given snaps) might be our most effective rusher at DE, and that includes Bailey.

The group is stupid deep.
Based on what, man? God damn. The dude has played like 3 snaps.

MTG#10 07-17-2015 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11603378)
Based on what, man? God damn. The dude has played like 3 snaps.
Because he's white and he's ripped. Duh.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-17-2015 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11603378)
Based on what, man? God damn. The dude has played like 3 snaps.
If your peers that are actually there to see what's going on think you have Pro Bowl potential.... they might be right. I mean they are there. Also watch Week 17 tape vs. SD. Most disruptive guy on our line that day.

Hydrae 07-17-2015 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11603358)
I was using the same ratings as were used to argue that Houston was a complete linebacker.

Also, Miller was in coverage 113 times, and gave up 11 catches for 76 yards. Attributing catches and yards to these guys is nearly meaningless, though, because they will almost always be dropping in zone, not man-to-man on a single receiver.
I am only following peripherally while on a conference call but from what I am reading Von rushed more times, had less sacks and was in coverage less times and gave up more catches and yards.

Unless I am missing something that sounds like you should be arguing that Houston is better. :)

Prison Bitch 07-17-2015 11:02 AM
He "cared about his teammates"

So he holds out and bitches about his contract until he gets his way, thereby reducing funds available for his teammates.


But he "cares". And don't you forget it.

The Franchise 07-17-2015 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11603386)
He "cared about his teammates"

So he holds out and bitches about his contract until he gets his way, thereby reducing funds available for his teammates.


But he "cares". And don't you forget it.
He bitched about his contract publicly? Did I miss when that happened?

MagicHef 07-17-2015 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 11603384)
I am only following peripherally while on a conference call but from what I am reading Von rushed more times, had less sacks and was in coverage less times and gave up more catches and yards.

Unless I am missing something that sounds like you should be arguing that Houston is better. :)
Hali was in coverage 111 times, and gave up 1 catch for 2 yards. It might be wise for KC to try him out at safety.

In other, non-sarcastic words, what you're missing is the context of each play.

staylor26 07-17-2015 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11603378)
Based on what, man? God damn. The dude has played like 3 snaps.
The guy is a great pass rushing prospect that is now strong/big enough to play inside. It's not that hard to understand why there's hype there even if he hasn't done jack shit up to this point. Hell, even the lockeroom/coaches/front office feels this way. There's a reason.

The Franchise 07-17-2015 11:16 AM
And Billay thought that Avant was the most overrated player out there. JFC. Catapano was a 7th round pick....has barely played and now he's a great pass rusher who's going to get 10 sacks a year.


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