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RunKC 08-02-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11633396)
Sacc is right for once. Wags is a ****ing beast and arguably the most important piece of that defense.

We're lucky as shit to have drawn them when he was out last season.

Yeah and they had Mebane out too. Huge hole right up the gut and we took advantage.

DaneMcCloud 08-02-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11633423)
I wonder what Mychal Kendrick's wants, in terms of an extension.

With the acquisition of Kiko Alonso, Kendricks is expendable.

It wouldn't shock me to see him moved before the trading deadline, or even preseason, to an ILB needy team.

DJ's left nut 08-02-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11633431)
It makes me wonder if the Eagles aren't anticipating his contract demands after this season.

If he signs for Wagner money, their comp pick would be better than what teams would be offering them in trade. The only disadvantage is they have to wait a season for the pick instead of collecting on it immediately. But then they would also get to use Kendricks for one more season.

Either way, it doesn't make sense why Chip is so sour on this guy.

Like I said, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him hire his horse as an assistant coach. He's that insane.

Kendricks isn't Wagner.

He can ask for Wagner money all he wants but nobody's going to give it to him. If anything, Wagner should set a cap for Kendricks.

The cap is not a myth, but it damn sure seems like nobody seems inclined to learn much about it before shooting their mouth off. Even after the Wilson contract, getting Wagner signed was not going to be cost prohibitive. They already have Sherman, Thomas and Chancellor signed. Okung is probably gone but even that's not a foregone conclusion.

The cap exists and it's a hindrance, the Seahawks are just incredibly smart in how they manage theirs. It's really not that complicated.

Mr. Laz 08-02-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11633217)
I love it. The salary cap chicken littles were talking about how Russel's new contract would cripple the team and instead the Hawks keep on rolling.

So then the Hunt family is cheap!

DaneMcCloud 08-02-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11634376)
Kendricks isn't Wagner.

He can ask for Wagner money all he wants but nobody's going to give it to him. If anything, Wagner should set a cap for Kendricks.

The cap is not a myth, but it damn sure seems like nobody seems inclined to learn much about it before shooting their mouth off. Even after the Wilson contract, getting Wagner signed was not going to be cost prohibitive. They already have Sherman, Thomas and Chancellor signed. Okung is probably gone but even that's not a foregone conclusion.

The cap exists and it's a hindrance, the Seahawks are just incredibly smart in how they manage theirs. It's really not that complicated.

It's a "myth" in repsect to the fact that teams won't lose important pieces they want to sign.

We've seen teams like Denver, who sign Manning to a huge deal while signing guys like DeMarcus Ware, Aqib Talib and now Demaryous Thomas while keeping their core intact.

The Dolphins have signed their QB long term as well as giving Suh a huge deal.

RunKC 08-02-2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11634392)
It's a "myth" in repsect to the fact that teams won't lose important pieces they want to sign.

We've seen teams like Denver, who sign Manning to a huge deal while signing guys like DeMarcus Ware, Aqib Talib and now Demaryous Thomas while keeping their core intact.

The Dolphins have signed their QB long term as well as giving Suh a huge deal.

We've also seen teams try and fit the cap like New Orleans and then have a fire sale because they got burned badly.

They replaced Jimmy Graham and Ben Grubbs with Benjamin Watson and Mike McGlynn.

Seattle is "rolling" right now because they still have their core talent that they drafted from the beginning.

What happens when key pieces such as Brandon Mebane, Bruce Irvin, Russell Okung and JR Sweezy leave in free agency next season?

They need to draft to replace all of those players and their last 2 drafts (2013/2014) have been completely underwhelming, and they had 20 picks.
Their OL could legitimately be as bad as the 2014 Chiefs with 4 starters most likely leaving.

Schneider is facing his toughest task as GM: proving he wasn't lucky on a lot of draft picks and building a 2nd wave.

I think that that's why Ozzie Newsome is the best GM in the league. He lost a ton of starters after the SB and built them back into a playoff team in a tough division after one reloading season.

DaneMcCloud 08-02-2015 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11634416)
We've also seen teams try and fit the cap like New Orleans and then have a fire sale because they got burned badly.

They replaced Jimmy Graham and Ben Grubbs with Benjamin Watson and Mike McGlynn.

I don't consider dumping Graham and Grubbs as a "fire sale". Graham is often injured and the Saints got a nice haul in return.

McGlynn is nothing more than possible depth. The Saints have young guys in place to replace Grubbs, Who had a poor salary/performance ratio last year.

Hammock Parties 08-02-2015 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11633044)
Salary cap is a myth.

Good thing we got rid of Bowe!

DaneMcCloud 08-02-2015 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11634457)
Good thing we got rid of Bowe!

It was time for a fresh start for both parties.

Chiefs get Maclin, Bowe goes to the finest franchise in the league.

eDave 08-02-2015 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11634457)
Good thing we got rid of Bowe!

Yes.

RINGLEADER 08-02-2015 07:05 PM

Just saw that they jettisoned DT Tony McDaniel as a cap casualty.

BryanBusby 08-02-2015 07:22 PM

Teams like the Dolphins can go out and sign players every year because they constantly **** up their drafts and picks.

When you don't have to allocate a lot of money to keep your players because you can't ****ing draft and you like to cycle through FA's, you can make some splashes.

The Seahawks are backloading all of their deals and will really start to feel the pinch when the cap hits for the recent deals start to incline.

The Chiefs had a mixture of dudes into the bulk of their deals and bad contracts all at once.

The young successful teams will be fine vs the cap and the older successful teams will always struggle with it.

RINGLEADER 08-02-2015 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11634809)
Teams like the Dolphins can go out and sign players every year because they constantly **** up their drafts and picks.

When you don't have to allocate a lot of money to keep your players because you can't ****ing draft and you like to cycle through FA's, you can make some splashes.

The Seahawks are backloading all of their deals and will really start to feel the pinch when the cap hits for the recent deals start to incline.

The Chiefs had a mixture of dudes into the bulk of their deals and bad contracts all at once.

The young successful teams will be fine vs the cap and the older successful teams will always struggle with it.

Well said.

In58men 03-08-2022 08:16 PM

Seattle signed Bobby Wagner
 
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Coochie liquor 03-08-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16181101)
Seattle just released Wagner per Schefty

You should have started a thread abouuuuuuummmmm my bad.


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