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chiefzilla1501 12-25-2015 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11975218)
And with all that said...

If they don't win a playoff game - or two - or God forbid **** up and miss them all together somehow - it won't matter.

Competitive regular seasons should be the floor at this point. Winning consistently in January is the mark of a successful organization.
No problems debating that with you. We've disagreed a lot but you always keep it respectful. Like above.

You're right. Has Dorsey been the best negotiator? Did he take good advantage of his draft picks and the comp picks he brilliantly got? Is he banking too much on Alex Smith? Will his loyalty to every coach on staff pay off? I don't know. But those are separate issues to me. I sense those are the main issues you're hung up on.

I believed last year that Dorsey had an excellent offseason last year. And considering how many grenades I took, like I always do for some reason, I'm going to gloat a hit.

Red Dawg 12-25-2015 04:35 PM
Teams that win year in and year out have continuity. We should keep Andy and Dorsey as long as possible. I do hope they grab a young QB prospect this year. But getting rid of Smith after next season should not mean the coach and GM should go. Especially not Doesey who is well connected and respected in the NFL. I hope he stays for 20 years.

scho63 12-25-2015 04:36 PM
Aside from building depth with many no name players, the greatest thing Dorsey has done is let "so called" talent walk and I see no one really doing anything great on other teams that we let go.

chiefzilla1501 12-25-2015 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11975230)
Considering that this is going to be our third straight winning season with Smith as our QB and what looks to be the second appearence in the playoffs in three years, I'd say we got a goddamn bargain considering what Smith signed for.

And for this system and what he's done with it, I would hardly consider Smith "middle of the road." Maybe the best QB in the NFL for what Reid runs and it's really taken two plus seasons to finally get this ship righted and playing to their potential. And that's still with a questionable receiving corps and a continually rotating offensive line that's starting two rookies (Morse and LDT) and a guy at RT (Jah Reid) who was discarded by what is currently the worst team in the NFL (Ravens).

I mean, the guy got internal organs ruptured he was getting hit so much and so hard last season playing behind what might have been the worst line in football while throwing to the worst receiving corps in NFL history. And he still got us to a winning season.

Smith has been a ****ing stud if you ask me.
Well, I'd lighten up on the praise. He deserves every bit of credit for being an effective QB this year especially given his weapons. But I hardly think reids system includes the defense basically scoring or gift wrapping scoring opportunities at least twice a game.

I hope like hell you're right. But I'm very cautious in my praise for now.

RealSNR 12-25-2015 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11975199)
This is too polite. Just call people out for being stupid.

Cp wanted jairus Byrd and DeSean jackson
Most bitched about not bringing back Albert and schwartz
Cp criticized the hell out of anyone who praised the last offseason for being conservative
Cp marginalized the value of comp picks
Cp all demanded a restructure of hali
And to boot, in their tantrum, most of the forum claimed last year's team would be lucky to win 4 games

Dorsey has made some missteps. But they aren't close to the missteps of the dumbass armchair qbs, most of whom call people out the loudest but then squeak a mouse fart when it comes to owning up to mistakes.

Dorsey was right to go light last offseason. We significantly cleaned up our cap situation. We earned a ton of comp picks. And we improved a lot of positions on the cheap that we could have spent a shitload of money on. And not panicking on dumbass restructures like Hali gave us leverage to negotiate an ultra friendly contract this year. Period.
Milkman made a post about this earlier.

"CP is stupid" is a popular thing to say around here because a few folks were in favor of certain moves that turned out to be bad.

Even if the percentage of people who believe that is only 10%... if they're vocal enough, all of a sudden "CP wanted ______" is the truth.

chiefzilla1501 12-25-2015 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11975466)
Milkman made a post about this earlier.

"CP is stupid" is a popular thing to say around here because a few folks were in favor of certain moves that turned out to be bad.

Even if the percentage of people who believe that is only 10%... if they're vocal enough, all of a sudden "CP wanted ______" is the truth.
I'm not shy about this one. I get called stupid a lot around here. To the annoying point where I don't even enjoy posting here anymore.

You can feel free to look up each of those topics and where I stood on these things. Not only am I criticized, I'm flat out gang tackled on those topics above with a rape stick. I enjoy arguing with people here and appreciate people who don't agree with me. At least, I used to. But lately it's gotten personal and I get called out for shit I said three years ago by people who don't own up to their own shit. See above. So yeah, I'm going to gloat about this one. I could just bump all these threads but I'm not gonna go there.

The Franchise 12-25-2015 07:57 PM
Pretty easy to call people stupid when you don't have an opinion yourself. Not talking about one specific person. Just the group of people who bash people for their opinions on players when they sit there with the opinion of "whatever *insert GM* does is fine with me".

NJChiefsFan 12-25-2015 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11975466)
Milkman made a post about this earlier.

"CP is stupid" is a popular thing to say around here because a few folks were in favor of certain moves that turned out to be bad.

Even if the percentage of people who believe that is only 10%... if they're vocal enough, all of a sudden "CP wanted ______" is the truth.
Definitely a quick way for people to act like they were the only ones to see the light.

ThaVirus 12-25-2015 08:39 PM
Everyone who sticks their neck out there will be wrong on occasion. Even if it's something horrendously off the mark- who cares?

One time, during the beginning of the 2013 season, I complained that Jamaal didn't run hard enough. In retrospect it was probably offensive line issues but whatever. I felt what I felt and made the comment.

You know how many ****s I give about being wrong? Not a single one.

ThaVirus 12-25-2015 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11975529)
I'm not shy about this one. I get called stupid a lot around here. To the annoying point where I don't even enjoy posting here anymore.



You can feel free to look up each of those topics and where I stood on these things. Not only am I criticized, I'm flat out gang tackled on those topics above with a rape stick. I enjoy arguing with people here and appreciate people who don't agree with me. At least, I used to. But lately it's gotten personal and I get called out for shit I said three years ago by people who don't own up to their own shit. See above. So yeah, I'm going to gloat about this one. I could just bump all these threads but I'm not gonna go there.

Don't be a little bitch, bro. It's just words on a screen.

I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate the fact that you never get personal. So keep posting.

Saccopoo 12-25-2015 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11975563)
Everyone who sticks their neck out there will be wrong on occasion. Even if it's something horrendously off the mark- who cares?

One time, during the beginning of the 2013 season, I complained that Jamaal didn't run hard enough. In retrospect it was probably offensive line issues but whatever. I felt what I felt and made the comment.

You know how many ****s I give about being wrong? Not a single one.
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O.city 12-25-2015 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11975563)
Everyone who sticks their neck out there will be wrong on occasion. Even if it's something horrendously off the mark- who cares?

One time, during the beginning of the 2013 season, I complained that Jamaal didn't run hard enough. In retrospect it was probably offensive line issues but whatever. I felt what I felt and made the comment.

You know how many ****s I give about being wrong? Not a single one.
good thing.

Amirite:D

mlyonsd 12-25-2015 09:03 PM
Dorsey knows his shit more than any Chief GM that I can think of.

DaFace 12-25-2015 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11975466)
Milkman made a post about this earlier.

"CP is stupid" is a popular thing to say around here because a few folks were in favor of certain moves that turned out to be bad.

Even if the percentage of people who believe that is only 10%... if they're vocal enough, all of a sudden "CP wanted ______" is the truth.
Yep, it's a good point. Unless there's a poll that at least quantifies it, it's impossible to know what "CP wanted."

SAUTO 12-25-2015 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11975566)
Don't be a little bitch, bro. It's just words on a screen.

I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate the fact that you never get personal. So keep posting.
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