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keg in kc 03-26-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 12150439)
I was 19 when this happened and I remember all the news stories just abruptly ended after a few weeks. Weird shit for sure.

The thing I remember is seeing (iirc) multiple witnesses reporting (on camera) a missile immediately after the event, but then nothing at all like that from day two onward in the coverage. It always felt off to me. At least if that's really how the coverage was and it's not just my memory twisting things over time...

LiveSteam 03-26-2016 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 12150632)
The thing I remember is seeing (iirc) multiple witnesses reporting (on camera) a missile immediately after the event, but then nothing at all like that from day two onward in the coverage. It always felt off to me. At least if that's really how the coverage was and it's not just my memory twisting things over time...

I remember seeing an interview of a couple people that were on a boat out in the ocean, claiming they seen what looked like a surface to air missile being launched.

Dave Lane 03-26-2016 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12149538)
I just assumed somebody on the plane was perusing CP on their phone and they clicked on a BEP thread. When they then blew their brains out the bullet went through the plane causing a loss of cabin pressure and the plane crashed in the ocean.

This is actually quite funny, and true. She's the only person I've ever put on ignore in 16 years. I'm safe :D

Chiefshrink 03-26-2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 12150632)
The thing I remember is seeing (iirc) multiple witnesses reporting (on camera) a missile immediately after the event, but then nothing at all like that from day two onward in the coverage. It always felt off to me. At least if that's really how the coverage was and it's not just my memory twisting things over time...

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 12150650)
I remember seeing an interview of a couple people that were on a boat out in the ocean, claiming they seen what looked like a surface to air missile being launched.

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12150544)
I still believe it was missiles that brought it down.

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 12150439)
I was 19 when this happened and I remember all the news stories just abruptly ended after a few weeks. Weird shit for sure.

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12150541)
My Father was a TWA maintenance inspector at the KC overhaul base. He was retired when this happened but I remember him saying it hat to be a bomb on board or it was hit by something. He said that airplanes just don't disintegrate in midair without something blowing it apart. I will say that TWA employees were fiercely loyal and prideful. They took it personally when something happened with one their airplanes. I remember it being a story for a couple weeks then just disappearing. But the nature of investigations are like that, we usually dont get the final report for years after the event. By then flight 800 is mushed together with other air disasters.

Yep !:thumb:

RobBlake 03-26-2016 09:32 PM

hate to be a conspiracy theorist but shit like this smells of intentional scattered incomplete information.. gov't is known for that.

Al Bundy 03-26-2016 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 12150650)
I remember seeing an interview of a couple people that were on a boat out in the ocean, claiming they seen what looked like a surface to air missile being launched.

I remember that true. I have always thought it was brought down by a missile.

Squalor2 03-26-2016 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12150255)
There is a documentary on Amazon about it. I wanted to post that but I can't find it on YouTube. They interviewed several investigators who participated in the investigation. Just sue arch for twa flight 800 if you have Amazon tv.


was it a cooking show?

Dave Lane 03-26-2016 11:11 PM

Conclusions

The NTSB investigation ended with the adoption of its final report on August 23, 2000. In it the Board determined that the probable cause of the TWA 800 accident was

[An] explosion of the center wing fuel tank (CWT), resulting from ignition of the flammable fuel/air mixture in the tank. The source of ignition energy for the explosion could not be determined with certainty, but, of the sources evaluated by the investigation, the most likely was a short circuit outside of the CWT that allowed excessive voltage to enter it through electrical wiring associated with the fuel quantity indication system.

In addition to the probable cause, the NTSB found the following contributing factors to the accident

The design and certification concept that fuel tank explosions could be prevented solely by precluding all ignition sources.
The certification of the Boeing 747 with heat sources located beneath the CWT with no means to reduce the heat transferred into the CWT or to render the fuel tank vapor non-combustible.

Fish 03-27-2016 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12150544)
I still believe it was missiles that brought it down.

Nope. Gravity.

eDave 03-27-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12150541)
My Father was a TWA maintenance inspector at the KC overhaul base. He was retired when this happened but I remember him saying it hat to be a bomb on board or it was hit by something. He said that airplanes just don't disintegrate in midair without something blowing it apart. I will say that TWA employees were fiercely loyal and prideful. They took it personally when something happened with one their airplanes. I remember it being a story for a couple weeks then just disappearing. But the nature of investigations are like that, we usually dont get the final report for years after the event. By then flight 800 is mushed together with other air disasters.

My dad was a TWA Maintenance Inspector as well. They most likely worked together.

srvy 03-27-2016 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12152113)
My dad was a TWA Maintenance Inspector as well. They most likely worked together.

Most likely so. Those were the days free airline travel. Sadly I didn't take advantage like my brother did.

eDave 03-27-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12152158)
Most likely so. Those were the days free airline travel. Sadly I didn't take advantage like my brother did.

We did a lot. But I was so glad when I could afford to buy my own ticket. Can't tell you how many hours we spent trying to fly somewhere. /shudder

srvy 03-27-2016 03:08 PM

Yes the standby was brutal at times. At the time my dad was like in top 5 TWA wide in seniority so that helped. Dad mad us wear a suit and tie to fly lol since we were representing the airline.

eDave 03-27-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12152169)
Yes the standby was brutal at times. At the time my dad was like in top 5 TWA wide in seniority so that helped. Dad mad us wear a suit and tie to fly lol since we were representing the airline.

Yea that was one of the rules. At least a tie. My dad was pretty high too I think. And a traveling family of four helped, ironically.

srvy 03-27-2016 03:26 PM

Dad retired in 1982 then pretty much took another job as head of the Sav a Connie restoration. He did all the paper work getting FAA air worthiness approval for commercial flight for the only flying Constellation at the time left. He did the inspections and wrote the job procedures for routine maintenance on it. Up till his Death in 2006 he pretty much lived at the KC Airline History Museum. He is one of these dudes below.
http://www.amtausa.com/honor2.html
http://www.amtausa.com/honor21.jpg


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