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RunKC 04-05-2016 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 12164963)
The only difference between Alexander and Nelson is that one guy played on an elite team.... ROFL

The guy is on the most talented defense in CFB and he can't get one INT in his entire career there?
That's not a red flag to you?

RunKC 04-05-2016 11:43 AM

Update: another CB coming in for a visit.

Terez Paylor@TerezPaylor-CB Elie Bouka will visit the Arizona Cardinals this weekend. Hearing #Chiefs will likely work him out later this month or in early May.

The Franchise 04-05-2016 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12164971)
The guy is on the most talented defense in CFB and he can't get one INT in his entire career there?
That's not a red flag to you?

No.

staylor26 04-05-2016 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12164974)
No.

This. It's hard to get INT's when QB's don't throw your way.

I've seen him make enough plays on the ball to not be concerned. He also looked pretty good catching the ball in his pro day drills.

jonzie04 04-05-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12164971)
The guy is on the most talented defense in CFB and he can't get one INT in his entire career there?
That's not a red flag to you?

Of course it's a concern, but what the hell does that have to do with him and Steven Nelson being the same player because they have the same measurables? ROFL

I'm sure there are 25 corners leaving the NCAA this year with the same measurables as Honey Badger and Chris Harris jr, but that doesn't mean they're the same player.

ChiefAshhole1056 04-05-2016 12:06 PM

At 6'4 and 320 he's a huge dude who's pretty locked in at NT to me. So does he play over Poe or Howard? Does Poe move to DE? I just don't think that would be in the best interest of the team to use the 1st round pick on a player that day 1 would be the 3rd string player at that position.

If you are thinking we'd just bump out Poe or Jaye to Devito's spot, why mess with anything that was already working and just draft Devitio's replacement in someone like Nkemdiche? I want an impact player day 1, and if we're going the DL route, I'd rather pick the guy who would actually start.

Also would make sense why Dorsey was at the Ole Miss Pro day and there hasn't been any talk on Devito lately.

staylor26 04-05-2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 12165018)
At 6'4 and 320 he's a huge dude who's pretty locked in at NT to me. So does he play over Poe or Howard? Does Poe move to DE? I just don't think that would be in the best interest of the team to use the 1st round pick on a player that day 1 would be the 3rd string player at that position.

If you are thinking we'd just bump out Poe or Jaye to Devito's spot, why mess with anything that was already working and just draft Devitio's replacement in someone like Nkemdiche? I want an impact player day 1, and if we're going the DL route, I'd rather pick the guy who would actually start.

Also would make sense why Dorsey was at the Ole Miss Pro day and there hasn't been any talk on Devito lately.

Butler can probably play anywhere on the line ala Howard, so he'd provide depth and versatility. He also has the ability to play inside in our sub packages and give us an interior pass rush boost.

Poe is a free agent next year, Howard the following year, and then Bailey the year after that. Taking advantage of one of the best DL classes available would be a smart choice if the top corners are gone.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-05-2016 12:20 PM

Bring in Kalan reed

ChiefAshhole1056 04-05-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12165027)
Butler can probably play anywhere on the line ala Howard, so he'd provide depth and versatility. He also has the ability to play inside in our sub packages and give us an interior pass rush boost.

Poe is a free agent next year, Howard the following year, and then Bailey the year after that. Taking advantage of one of the best DL classes available would be a smart choice if the top corners are gone.

I feel like Dorsey has done pretty well at finding that Howard prototype with his later picks and waiver wire pickups. He probably can find more of those type of guys if he needed to for versatility and depth, but Nkemdiche is a great talent that could really help out the defense in a spot that didnt have a whole lot of production from Devito these past few years from a pass rush standpoint.

T-post Tom 04-05-2016 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12164744)
Kendrell Bell coming in for a look.

:D Ty Law and Kyle Turley too?

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-05-2016 05:39 PM

Damn, if we draft Butler we are guaranteed at least two butt fumbles a year by Sanchez.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-05-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 12165018)
At 6'4 and 320 he's a huge dude who's pretty locked in at NT to me. So does he play over Poe or Howard? Does Poe move to DE? I just don't think that would be in the best interest of the team to use the 1st round pick on a player that day 1 would be the 3rd string player at that position.

If you are thinking we'd just bump out Poe or Jaye to Devito's spot, why mess with anything that was already working and just draft Devitio's replacement in someone like Nkemdiche? I want an impact player day 1, and if we're going the DL route, I'd rather pick the guy who would actually start.

Also would make sense why Dorsey was at the Ole Miss Pro day and there hasn't been any talk on Devito lately.

How bout using him to spell Poe. A rotation at NT would be good.

Chiefshrink 04-05-2016 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12164737)
Well there definitely appears to be legitimate interest in Vernon Butler. Isn't this the second or third time we've met with him?

It's POKER time!!! How many times did we bring in Dee Ford ??? Anybody see the Marcus Peters pick coming last year ? I say with Dorsey you watch who he doesn't bring in or even talk to.

Chiefaholic 04-05-2016 06:25 PM

Player Team Position Total Snaps Off Snaps Off Snap Pct Def Snaps Def Snap Pct ST Snaps ST Snap Pct
70-M.Devito KC DL 333 0 0.0% 293 26.9% 40 9.0%
92-D.Poe KC DL 806 1 0.1% 759 69.8% 46 10.3%
93-D.King KC DL 5 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 5 1.1%
96-J.Howard KC DL 801 0 0.0% 752 69.1% 49 11.0%
97-A.Bailey KC DL 624 0 0.0% 582 53.5% 42 9.4%
98-N.Williams KC DL 195 0 0.0% 182 16.7% 13 2.9%
99-R.Nunez-Roches KC DL 47 0 0.0% 22 2.0% 25 5.6%

Chief Northman 04-05-2016 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12165656)
It's POKER time!!! How many times did we bring in Dee Ford ??? Anybody see the Marcus Peters pick coming last year ? I say with Dorsey you watch who he doesn't bring in or even talk to.

It was well documented last year that both Dorsey and Reid spent significant time with Marcus Peters 7 to 14 days before the draft.


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