ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Chris Conley #2 WR going into Training Camp

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)

- Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)

- -

Chris Conley #2 WR going into Training Camp (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=300513)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286692)

This post is complete shit.

The Chiefs didn't sign Streater to be their #1 wide receiver.

Also, he signed a one year deal. If he puts up great numbers, he'll be in demand next year for every team looking for a solid #2.

If he doesn't contribute, it's a one year deal and he won't return.

Duh.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286692)

Nobody implied anything you interpreted.

Good job arguing with ghosts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 12287152)

Nobody implied anything you interpreted.

Good job arguing with ghosts.

I took your post the exact way he did, ftr.

That is interesting.

A few days ago, TJ was on 810 and said that the most shocking thing about OTA's was how Conley did nothing...he wasn't bad, but he wasn't good. He was JAG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 12287152)

Nobody implied anything you interpreted.

Good job arguing with ghosts.

I think you need to re-read your post

I have high hopes for this lad. Go gettem' kid!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12287241)

That is interesting.

A few days ago, TJ was on 810 and said that the most shocking thing about OTA's was how Conley did nothing...he wasn't bad, but he wasn't good. He was JAG.

Well he's not exactly competing against murderer's row.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12287241)

That is interesting.

A few days ago, TJ was on 810 and said that the most shocking thing about OTA's was how Conley did nothing...he wasn't bad, but he wasn't good. He was JAG.

TJ's a ****ing idiot, so I would take what he says with a grain of salt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12286781)

The signing bonus for Streater was only 10k; most of the rest is salary and incentives.

There is a chance he doesn't make it out of training camp if Conley or some of the other newcomers looks good.

Oh, and here is the salary information.

"Rod Streater signed a 1 year, $810,000 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including a $10,000 signing bonus, $110,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $810,000. In 2016, Streater will earn a base salary of $760,000, a signing bonus of $10,000, a workout bonus of $40,000 and a incentive bonus of $4,000,000. Streater has a cap hit of $4,810,000 while his dead money value is $110,000."

What the heck is that incentive bonus? Now THAT's an incentive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12287395)

What the heck is that incentive bonus? Now THAT's an incentive.

It means that if he meets all of the incentives in the contract, which usually includes things like a minimum amount of yardage, TD's, games played, Pro Bowl, All Pro and Super Bowl, he'll earn $4 million dollars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12287403)

Well, I hope he gets it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286360)

I disagree. It's an absolute necessity to take the pressure of of Maclin and Kelce.

Conley's unproven, as is the rest of the WR corp.

It's Streater's job to put up at least 750 yards and 5 TD's.

We still have guys like Brown, Robinson, Hill and Mathews hanging around, to go along with the top three in Maclin, Conley and Wilson... dude c'mon, if Streater tanks someone will step up to one degree or another

Or, Reid will just scheme heavier with the backs and tight ends to help pick up the slack

Streater was a non-entity his last year with the raiders, theres no real reason to expect too much... they took another gamble on a youngish vet like they've done multiple times since day one and gave him an incentive laden contract

Its not something I feel a great need to argue about, simply stating my belief that if he fails, there is enough talent on hand to minimize his failure

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)

We still have guys like Brown, Robinson, Hill and Mathews hanging around

None of whom have had any NFL experience. Brown was a 7th, Robinson a 4th, Hill a 5th and Mathews undrafted.

That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the position.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)

to go along with the top three in Maclin, Conley and Wilson... dude c'mon, if Streater tanks someone will step up to one degree or another

Maclin's the only reliable receiver from that group. Look at the offense in the Patriots playoff game as proof. Once Maclin's off the field, the offense became ineffective.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)

Streater was a non-entity his last year with the raiders, theres no real reason to expect too much...

Rod Streater had 1,452 yards and 7 TD's his first two seasons in the league. He was injured in 2014 and only appeared in 3 games. He was a healthy scratch in 2015 due to a new coaching staff and scheme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)

Its not something I feel a great need to argue about, simply stating my belief that if he fails, there is enough talent on hand to minimize his failure

Talent? Where? I was a bigger fan of Brown than Avant last year but the fact remains that he's a longshot to make the roster. Conley's proven nothing, Wilson is small and doesn't sell out for the football. Expecting a 4th or 5th rounder to step into a starting role to provide 750+ yards is unrealistic, IMO.

The Chiefs will need a healthy Rod Streater if they're to make progress in 2016.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12287446)

None of whom have had any NFL experience. Brown was a 7th, Robinson a 4th, Hill a 5th and Mathews undrafted.

That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the position.

Maclin's the only reliable receiver from that group. Look at the offense in the Patriots playoff game as proof. Once Maclin's off the field, the offense became ineffective.

Rod Streater had 1,452 yards and 7 TD's his first two seasons in the league. He was injured in 2014 and only appeared in 3 games. He was a healthy scratch in 2015 due to a new coaching staff and scheme.

Talent? Where? I was a bigger fan of Brown than Avant last year but the fact remains that he's a longshot to make the roster. Conley's proven nothing, Wilson is small and doesn't sell out for the football. Expecting a 4th or 5th rounder to step into a starting role to provide 750+ yards is unrealistic, IMO.

The Chiefs will need a healthy Rod Streater if they're to make progress in 2016.

Dane, though I generally agree with your take here, my hope is that Robinson has much more talent than a "normal" 4th rounder. I believe off-the-field contributed to his slide in the draft as most of the write-ups I've seen on Robinson suggest that he is essentially as talented of a receiver as pretty much anyone in the draft. I have high hopes for this kid, but until we see him with pads and pro competition, it's just a hope.

Also, many CPers have suggested, as you did, that Wilson doesn't sell out for the football. You all may be correct, but I'm hoping that what we saw was him guarding his hammy's so as not to induce a full-fledged pull. To me, he looked more like he was favoring his hammy rather than being timid about getting the rock.

Anyway, just a couple of thoughts as we endure what seems like a very loooooong off season.