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Mr. Flopnuts 09-30-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457040)
He's been to rehab. Apparently, he has anxiety and self-confidence issues, which lead to marijuana use.

I don't think the guy is "partying" so much as he has Social Anxiety Disorder among other issues.

That's a mother****er to deal with in life. Particularly with his stature. Imagine everyone wanting to talk to you and you being scared to death to talk to them.

ScareCrowe 09-30-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12457005)
Wait. Is he entering rehab for weed? Weed?!

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LOL, first thing I thought of when I heard about this.

"You in here for some marijuana?!?!"

"I sucked dick for coke, you ever suck dick for marijuana?"

"ummm no"

"boo this man!!"

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457040)
He's been to rehab. Apparently, he has anxiety and self-confidence issues, which lead to marijuana use.

I don't think the guy is "partying" so much as he has Social Anxiety Disorder among other issues.

Whatever his root cause issues are, he has had plenty of time to deal with it prior to now when he was about to get reinstated and actually play again.

I know your opinion on pot and I personally think the fear of it is overrated.

That being said I believe just like some people can drink and not be an alcoholic and some people cant, some people cant recreationaly smoke weed. They have an addiction issue.

This is obviously the case here IMO.

eDave 09-30-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457328)
Whatever his root cause issues are, he has had plenty of time to deal with it prior to now when he was about to get reinstated and actually play again.

I know your opinion on pot and I personally think the fear of it is overrated.

That being said I believe just like some people can drink and not be an alcoholic and some people cant, some people cant recreationaly smoke weed. They have an addiction issue.

This is obviously the case here IMO.

Who said it's an addiction to pot? He simple can't smoke pot and play in the NFL. Which is sad if pot helps him. And I know it does.

Your first line is pretty insensitive.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457328)
Whatever his root cause issues are, he has had plenty of time to deal with it prior to now when he was about to get reinstated and actually play again.

Plenty of time? This is nothing new for him. He's been to rehab, he's been suspended yet he can't stop smoking weed. It's not because he's partying, he's self medicating.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457328)
That being said I believe just like some people can drink and not be an alcoholic and some people cant, some people cant recreationaly smoke weed. They have an addiction issue.

This is obviously the case here IMO.

I completely disagree. This isn't a "party" issue, this is a deep psychological issue. Ricky Williams dealt with Social Anxiety Disorder and smoked, too.

Personally, if weed does it for him, good! Who in the ****ing world wants to be on Lithium, opiates, Xanax, et al, every single day of their life?

Couch-Potato 09-30-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457337)
Plenty of time? This is nothing new for him. He's been to rehab, he's been suspended yet he can't stop smoking weed. It's not because he's partying, he's self medicating.



I completely disagree. This isn't a "party" issue, this is a deep psychological issue. Ricky Williams dealt with Social Anxiety Disorder and smoked, too.

Personally, if weed does it for him, good! Who in the ****ing world wants to be on Lithium, opiates, Xanax, et al, every single day of their life?


100% agree. Young man is an incredible football talent, his employer needs to stay out of his personal medicinal choices and let him play football. I would love to see him sue the league over all of this.

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457337)
Plenty of time? This is nothing new for him. He's been to rehab, he's been suspended yet he can't stop smoking weed. It's not because he's partying, he's self medicating.



I completely disagree. This isn't a "party" issue, this is a deep psychological issue. Ricky Williams dealt with Social Anxiety Disorder and smoked, too.

Personally, if weed does it for him, good! Who in the ****ing world wants to be on Lithium, opiates, Xanax, et al, every single day of their life?

Even if his addiction is caused by some other ongoing mental problem, dude is still an addict.

To think anything otherwise is nonsense.

He was suspended in college for failed drug tests.

He has exactly 1 season out of 5 in the NFL now where he hasn't failed a drug test.

This is the textbook definition of addiction.

I know it goes against your whole "there is absolutely nothing wrong with weed" personal theory but it is what it is.

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 12457356)
100% agree. Young man is an incredible football talent, his employer needs to stay out of his personal medicinal choices and let him play football. I would love to see him sue the league over all of this.

Couch-Potato huh? Interesting user name, its almost like its not obvious you are a pot head.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457362)
Even if his addiction is caused by some other ongoing mental problem, dude is still an addict.

To think anything otherwise is nonsense.

He was suspended in college for failed drug tests.

He has exactly 1 season out of 5 in the NFL now where he hasn't failed a drug test.

This is the textbook definition of addiction.

I know it goes against your whole "there is absolutely nothing wrong with weed" personal theory but it is what it is.

:facepalm:

Yeah, he'd be so much better off if he was on Adderall or Xanax.

eDave 09-30-2016 12:46 PM

Booze is perfectly fine. Start some bar fights. Shoot yourself in the leg. Beat your girl, ad nauseum.

Dude just wants to feel better. **** him, right? If the NFL cares like they say, let the man play. It's weed, FFS.

Let them all smoke. Less injuries that way anyway. Von Miller should roll a fattie before a game. He'll be less of a douche on the field.

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457372)
:facepalm:

Yeah, he'd be so much better off if he was on Adderall or Xanax.

Did you get some type of clinical diagnosis that nobody else is aware of or are you just making assumptions based on your own opinion?

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12457384)
Booze is perfectly fine. Start some bar fights. Shoot yourself in the leg. Beat your girl, ad nauseum.

Dude just wants to feel better. **** him, right? If the NFL cares like they say, let the man play. It's weed, FFS.

Let them all smoke. Less injuries that way anyway. Von Miller should roll a fattie before a game. He'll be less of a douche on the field.

Based on what? Is it all the football hits he has taken being suspended for most of his career?

You guys are picking a hilarious hill to die on but again you are both smokers so its obvious the motivation.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457401)
You guys are picking a hilarious hill to die on but again you are both smokers so its obvious the motivation.

:facepalm:

I'm not a "smoker".

Amnorix 09-30-2016 01:02 PM

He obviously is an addict. Regardless of why he is addicted, the very definition of "addiction" is to continue behavior which is inherently self-destructive, and you know it's self-destructive. His use of marijuana is self-destructive in that it is ruining his NFL career.

All that said, the NFL should seriously revisit its marijuana policy. There is no real, legitimate, reason that it should be on the banned substances list any more than alcohol. If someone abuses it and it causes issues, then he can be dealt with by the gentle, loving, tolerant personnel conduct policies of Kommissar Goodell. Otherwise, WTF cares. Public perception on the issue has chagned, as has the law in many states, to recognize that marijuana is not in remotely the same class of drug as cocaine or heroin.

lcarus 09-30-2016 01:09 PM

I don't know how many times I've said this, but weed is only possibly mentally addictive. That's it. And from a league that feeds buckets of painkillers that are terribly addictive to its players, the anti-marijuana stance is absurd.


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