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Deberg_1990 08-27-2016 06:21 PM
Greens INTs used to frustrate me me so much.
He would have been better if he could have cut those down. Not only did he throw a lot of them, he threw untimely ones. Red Zone INTs and pick sixes.

ChiefsCountry 08-27-2016 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12390434)
In some ways he was but Green never won a playoff game.
Green definitely played with more talent on offense than Smith including one of the best OL in team history. Green had a lot more pass attempts on a high powered offense. He also got labeled Trint because of all the picks he threw. In his 6 seasons here, one of which he only played 8 games he threw 85 INTs. So far in 3 seasons Smith has thrown 20 INTs.
Smith plays in a completely different style of offense that asks him to do things differently.
Steve DeBerg won a playoff game, Trent Green led team would have destoryed that sorry ass Texans team just as easy as Alex Smith did.

Better talent on offense bull shit. Green had a better line and TE. Alex has a way better WR in Maclin, Charles is equal or better than Priest.

Green > Smith no question.

BossChief 08-27-2016 06:24 PM
McNabb was 33 and was coming off a year where he was pretty good, actually when he got traded.

We was 10-4 as the starter that year, as well.

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12390447)
Steve DeBerg won a playoff game, Trent Green led team would have destoryed that sorry ass Texans team just as easy as Alex Smith did.

Better talent on offense bull shit. Green had a better line and TE. Alex has a way better WR in Maclin, Charles is equal or better than Priest.

Green > Smith no question.
Trent Green needed a Hall of Fame line in order to operate the offense. He was fairly awful in 2001 and looked awful in 2006, while Huard looked acceptable.

Green was a nice QB for a few years but that's about it. Had Rodney Harrison not torn up Green's knee, his fate may have been very different.

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12390451)
McNabb was 33 and was coming off a year where he was pretty good, actually when he got traded.

We was 10-4 as the starter that year, as well.
McNabb was done by that point.

I can't envision any scenario in which they trade Alex Smith in the near future, if ever.

I think it's more likely that he ends his NFL career as a Chief.

BossChief 08-27-2016 06:28 PM
Foles' contract is structured so if he plays this year and does well, KC pays him as a starter next year.

I doubt they trade Alex, but I had to ask because Andy's history shows its not out of the question that KC trades him after this year.

Chief Roundup 08-27-2016 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12390447)
Steve DeBerg won a playoff game, Trent Green led team would have destoryed that sorry ass Texans team just as easy as Alex Smith did.

Better talent on offense bull shit. Green had a better line and TE. Alex has a way better WR in Maclin, Charles is equal or better than Priest.

Green > Smith no question.
Green in 6 years 118 TDs and 85 INTs in a high powered offense, one in which Priest set the record for most rushing TDs in a single season, yes Shawn Alexander broke it in later years.
Smith in 3 years 61 TDs and 20 INTs with a shit line no where near as productive of a rushing game and a dink and dunk low powered offense.
If his production stays the same he will double his TD production with less than half as many INTs in the same time frame.

ROFL

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12390460)
Foles' contract is structured so if he plays this year and does well, KC pays him as a starter next year.
Only if they pick up that option.

I think it's highly unlikely that Foles sees any real action this season, unless there's a serious blowout happening.

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I doubt they trade Alex, but I had to ask because Andy's history shows its not out of the question that KC trades him after this year.
Andy is not in charge of the personnel in KC

tk13 08-27-2016 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12390461)
Green in 6 years 118 TDs and 85 INTs in a high powered offense, one in which Priest set the record for most rushing TDs in a single season, yes Shawn Alexander broke it in later years.
Smith in 3 years 61 TDs and 20 INTs with a shit line no where near as productive of a rushing game and a dink and dunk low powered offense.
If his production stays the same he will double his TD production with less than half as many INTs in the same time frame.

ROFL
In terms of the playoffs though... Trent Green played with one of the worst defenses to ever take the field. They literally didn't force a punt in 2003 against the Colts. How are you supposed to top that? People who blame Trent or Priest for that game are crazy.

Chief Roundup 08-27-2016 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12390465)
In terms of the playoffs though... Trent Green played with one of the worst defenses to ever take the field. They literally didn't force a punt in 2003 against the Colts. How are you supposed to top that? People who blame Trent or Priest for that game are crazy.
As crazy as the people that blame Smith for our loss to Colts when the Defense gave up 28 points late in the 4th?
Smith should have 2 playoff victories in all reality. That was probably if not his best game EVER.

BossChief 08-27-2016 06:35 PM
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McNabb was done by that point.

I can't envision any scenario in which they trade Alex Smith in the near future, if ever.

I think it's more likely that he ends his NFL career as a Chief.
He was coming off a strong year, actually.

Chiefshrink 08-27-2016 06:35 PM
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Trent Green was way better than Alex Smith.
Yep and had Queen Carl addressed our defense properly we would have had a SB dynasty run or close to it from 02-05.

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12390471)
He was coming off a strong year, actually.
He wasn't good in Washington or Minnesota. I think Andy saw the writing on the wall.

tk13 08-27-2016 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12390467)
As crazy as the people that blame Smith for our loss to Colts when the Defense gave up 28 points late in the 4th?
Smith should have 2 playoff victories in all reality. That was probably if not his best game EVER.
Yes. I've said that many times. Smith deserves no blame for that Colts loss. If you score 44 you should win. End of discussion. You're barking up the wrong tree here.

But that's not the argument you're making here. You're bashing Trent Green because he never won a playoff game. He played his peak 3 years with the worst defense in the league, then in Vermeil's final season they finally had a okay defense, but they ended up being one of the few 10-6 teams to not make the playoffs.

Chiefshrink 08-27-2016 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12390467)
As crazy as the people that blame Smith for our loss to Colts when the Defense gave up 28 points late in the 4th?
Smith should have 2 playoff victories in all reality. That was probably if not his best game EVER.
BINGO !!


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