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milkman 08-28-2016 12:03 PM

Ford isn't a bust yet, but he has to start to flash this year to avoid that label.

Buehler445 08-28-2016 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12391113)
Derrick Johnson was considered a "bust" after four seasons, too.

Squirmin Herman Mother****ing sack of **** Edwards. And his "defensive coaching".

**** that bitch.

Meatloaf 08-28-2016 12:13 PM

Ford needs to gt better FAST. He's gonna be a starter and the parity in the league is so tight that we can't afford him to learn via "trial and error". What with Houston's status, we need Ford to be a complete OLB, not just a pass rusher. He's gotta consistently set the edge, dirty his nose on running plays, drop into coverage decently, etc. That's a lot to ask from where I think he is right now. Heck, I'm more impressed with Dadi Nicolas than I am Dee Ford. I think Dadi has a toughness about him that I just don't see with Ford.

* In the interests of fair and complete reporting, please understand that I never much cared for the Dee Ford selection, so there is a bias there on my part.

** Furthering the interests of fair and complete reporting requires me to note that I didn't form said bias based on the guys name or complexion or any such thing. Said bias was DEVELOPED after seeing this guy perform.

*** So happy we're finally seeing some football again!!!

Buehler445 08-28-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12391158)
That's right Dane. I completely forgot that. However, didn't he originally play OLB in the 4-3 and it wasn't until he moved inside in the 3-4 that he got good?

Nope. Squirmin Herman mother****ing sack of **** Edwards rolled out and we got some NFL level coaching in this botch. First 4 years of Vermiel and the Squirmin Herman mother****ing sack of can't Edwards will make any defensive player look like a bust.

Easy 6 08-28-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12391231)
Ford isn't a bust yet, but he has to start to flash this year to avoid that label.

Thats where I'm at

jjchieffan 08-28-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12391246)
Nope. Squirmin Herman mother****ing sack of **** Edwards rolled out and we got some NFL level coaching in this botch. First 4 years of Vermiel and the Squirmin Herman mother****ing sack of can't Edwards will make any defensive player look like a bust.

Interesting. Some day I would like to hear your feelings on Herm Edwards. I feel like you're holding back. LMAO

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-28-2016 01:19 PM

Welp, this is year 3 for him and it looks like he will have opportunity to show us what talent he thinks he has. I think the play on Frank gore will be the theme of his career. Personally I think he's a moron with a burst. He will paddle his way to the end of his rookie contract and it will be over.

There's no doubt we will need to draft 4 edge rushers next year.

jspchief 08-28-2016 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12391231)
Ford isn't a bust yet, but he has to start to flash this year to avoid that label.

I'm sorry but I want more than "start to flash". The guy should look like a starter.

RINGLEADER 08-28-2016 01:28 PM

If Dee gets pressure we'll be fine. If he produces like he has in the preseason then we'll see more blitzes, give up more big plays, and have to score more.

BlackHelicopters 08-28-2016 01:38 PM

Ford is an Edsel.

Mr. Laz 08-28-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 12391381)
If Dee gets pressure we'll be fine. If he produces like he has in the preseason then we'll see more blitzes, give up more big plays, and have to score more.

except for the fact that Ford is playing Houston's position, not Hali's

Ford will be in space like 60% of the time.

Sutton will need to call a blitz before Ford even has a chance to 'get pressure'


Sutton trusted Houston to produce, he's not going to be nearly as likely to blitz Ford unless Dee proves early on that he can't get to the QB when given the chance.

Rasputin 08-28-2016 04:27 PM

Ford still hurries a lot of quarterbacks into throwing sooner than they want so I think his sacks will start coming because we have great coverage in the backfield and actually Peters and Berry benefit with the hurries Ford brings creating turnovers. I'm not ready to call Ford a bust but he does need to get motivated as a starting DE.

LoneWolf 08-28-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12391637)
Ford still hurries a lot of quarterbacks into throwing sooner than they want so I think his sacks will start coming because we have great coverage in the backfield and actually Peters and Berry benefit with the hurries Ford brings creating turnovers. I'm not ready to call Ford a bust but he does need to get motivated as a starting DE.

Did Ford change positions?

Rasputin 08-28-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12391649)
Did Ford change positions?


No but I think of him as a hybrid linebacker defensive end. Same thing as I think of Hali when he plays up on the line just like DT to rush the quarterback.

Mr. Laz 08-28-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12391662)
No but I think of him as a hybrid linebacker defensive end. Same thing as I think of Hali when he plays up on the line just like DT to rush the quarterback.

What are you talking about?

Hali is almost always on the LoS at RDE/ROLB

Ford will be playing LOLB because of Houton's injury. That means he is standing up and playing is space unless Sutton calls a blitz/Pressure play


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