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DaneMcCloud 10-10-2016 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12477180)
what the **** are you even talking about? God you are stupid. I never said the buyer can't claim it's defective. I'm suggesting the OP cancel the transaction refund the buyer and re list it to avoid getting scammed. Do you speak english?

:facepalm:

dj56dt58 10-10-2016 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12477182)
:facepalm:

:hmmm:

dj56dt58 10-10-2016 11:59 PM

Dildo stuck in your ass again?

DaneMcCloud 10-10-2016 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12477181)
seller (powerseller account)

So your telling me that if you sell hundreds of items per year while people are falsely claiming that they didn't receive their items or claiming defective items, etc, eBay will side with the seller?

That is the exact opposite of my experience, especially with international buyers.

I will never, ever sell to an international buyer, ever again.

cosmo20002 10-11-2016 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12477172)
Stubhub is owned by eBay, which is crap within itself, but I digress.

Purchasing tickets on eBay is far different than most items, especially musical instrumentt, pro audio gear, etc.

As I mentioned in the last post, PayPal protects buyers for 180 days. So if you send an item in perfect working order and it arrives in perfect working order, but the buyer says on day 179, "Item not as described", PayPal will put a hold on your account, refund the buyer and in most cases, allow the buyer to keep the item.

Maybe it's still fine for clothes and other items but it sucks for bigger ticket items, although the whole "refurb" scam has taken a life of its own, from my understating.

Bottom line: stay away as a seller.

It's supposed to be "significantly not as described, and you're going to have to prove it. Anyway, it is a bitch and yes, I would avoid as a seller.

I've never had a problem at all with Stubhub though, although their buyer fees make Ticketmaster's look cheap. It's basically 20% of the ticket price.

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12477184)
Dildo stuck in your ass again?

Mine? You're the butt**** that's talking out of his ass.

dj56dt58 10-11-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12477185)
So your telling me that if you sell hundreds of items per year while people are falsely claiming that they didn't receive their items or claiming defective items, etc, eBay will side with the seller?

That is the exact opposite of my experience, especially with international buyers.

I will never, ever sell to an international buyer, ever again.

No, i'm not telling you that. Where are you getting this?

dj56dt58 10-11-2016 12:04 AM

I am saying if the OP CANCELS AND TRANSACTION REFUNDS IT AND DOESNT SHIP IT the buyer can't screw him. If he ships it then he can get screwed by the buyer saying they received an empty package. The buyer cannot just say they didnt get it anything under $250 and the seller is protected from that. Anything over that amount the seller has to use signature confirmation. If the buyer says they received package but it was empty then your just screwed.

dj56dt58 10-11-2016 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12477185)
So your telling me that if you sell hundreds of items per year while people are falsely claiming that they didn't receive their items or claiming defective items, etc, eBay will side with the seller?

That is the exact opposite of my experience, especially with international buyers.

I will never, ever sell to an international buyer, ever again.

I started selling international again but only with the global shipping program. That way international buyers can claim they didnt get something but as long as Ebay received it from you your covered.

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2016 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12477186)
It's supposed to be "significantly not as described, and you're going to have to prove it. Anyway, it is a bitch and yes, I would avoid as a seller.

I've never had a problem at all with Stubhub though, although their buyer fees make Ticketmaster's look cheap. It's basically 20% of the ticket price.

I've sold items that were perfect when I shipped, only to be negged as "not as described". Not only were they not returned but I lost the money.

There was only one time in which a bad transaction turned out in my favor. I shipped a keyboard module to NoCal and it arrived destroyed. The buyer was cool, sent it back via Fed Ex and sure enough, it was trashed. A Fed Ex rep came to my house after a several conversations and fortunately, I took pictures of the packing.

Fed Ex refunded me and I had it repaired. I re-listed and lo and behold, the same guy purchased it. It arrived safely.

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2016 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12477191)
I started selling international again but only with the global shipping program. That way international buyers can claim they didnt get something but as long as Ebay received it from you your covered.

Good for you but man, I am done forever with international.

I know that people that run businesses rely on it but as an occasional seller (and with software, far less than ever), it's just not worth the hassle.

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2016 12:10 AM

FYI, for anyone reading this that needs or wants to sell pro audio, guitars, basses, amps, drums, etc., Reverb.com is awesome.

Can't recommend it enough.

Reverb.com.

dj56dt58 10-11-2016 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12477193)
I've sold items that were perfect when I shipped, only to be negged as "not as described". Not only were they not returned but I lost the money.

There was only one time in which a bad transaction turned out in my favor. I shipped a keyboard module to NoCal and it arrived destroyed. The buyer was cool, sent it back via Fed Ex and sure enough, it was trashed. A Fed Ex rep came to my house after a several conversations and fortunately, I took pictures of the packing.

Fed Ex refunded me and I had it repaired. I re-listed and lo and behold, the same guy purchased it. It arrived safely.

I think that policy just changed. I receive a lot of items not as described and recently I noticed you have to request a return. It used to automatically open a case which would lead to a refund regardless of if you returned the item or not. I hated the way it was set up before as they basically made me open a case even if I just wanted to return it

Buck 10-11-2016 12:13 AM

Just FYI the "ticket" is a wristband with an RF tag in it. Or else I would have just sold on stubhub. The ticket has to be physically sent, from South Carolina to California, unfortunately.

cosmo20002 10-11-2016 12:15 AM

Just a little side story on ebay buyers...I used to be more involved in buying/selling old coins. As you might assume, price is highly dependent on condition and its condition grading. Often the condition is certified by a professional service, sometimes not.

So, savvy buyers scour ebay for stuff that they think are under-graded. And they look for ungraded coins that aren't presented well, like because of a bad pic.

So, they buy the coin.
Then they immediately re-list it with the improved presentation and a description saying it will likely grade higher if certified. Sometimes they sell. But if they don't sell...they just file for a return and say it "wasn't as described" because of an imperfection they didn't see on the listing.
Its a great method...you're basically borrowing someone's inventory and seeing if you can sell at a higher price. If you can't, just return it.
It's BS. eBay has made selling really shitty.


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