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pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871114)
Favre had a 4 win and an 8 win season right after Rodgers was drafted. If Smith wins 11-12 and gets us deep into the playoffs, there is no way in hell Mahomes takes over in 2018. Absolutely not.

That is one massive, massive if there in bold.

Smith needs a Pro Bowl caliber season to stay alive here. Legitimate Pro Bowl, not alternate.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12871090)
How many 22 year olds have "taken over" teams that have consistently won double digit games for five consecutive years and continued that streak?

Dorsey was with Green Bay when Rodgers sat for 3 full years.

They're not going to rush Mahomes, nor should they.

:clap:

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12871118)
That is one massive, massive if there in bold.

Smith needs a Pro Bowl caliber season to stay alive here. Legitimate Pro Bowl, not alternate.

There is no question he is progressing in this offense despite the huge decline in Maclin last season during that mental funk he went thru

QBR 50-> 56-> 61-> 63.4 (ranked 11th in the league)

pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2017 01:40 PM

For those who keep pointing to the Rodgers/Favre thing.... what proof do you have that Rodgers wouldn't have been just as good if he started in his 2nd year? I mean, really?

It isn't his fault that he had an elite QB in front of him.

pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871123)
There is no question he is progressing in this offense despite the huge decline in Maclin last season during that mental funk he went thru

QBR 50-> 56-> 61-> 63.4 (ranked 11th in the league)

I don't care what his QBR is, he couldn't muster more than 1 TD per game last season. He failed to put up more than 16 points against a mediocre Pittsburgh defense, at home, coming off a bye.

There are no excuses for that.

RunKC 05-13-2017 01:42 PM

Alex Smith was 27th in the NFL in TD passes last year with 15. That is horrendous and a complete waste of money.

Frosty 05-13-2017 01:43 PM

First of all, I think it's dumb to argue whether PM2 can run the offense or not when he hasn't done anything more than throw in rookie minicamp at this point.

That said, McNabb was only a year older than Mahomes and led the Eagles to a 11-5 season and a playoff win during his second season. McNabb wasn't known as being a football genius or anything. Reid just tailored to his strengths, which is what I think he would do if he decides Mahomes is ready, too. He isn't just going to throw the whole playbook at him or make him wait until he knows it inside an out. Reid didn't even do that with Alex the first couple of seasons.

Edit: Also, the is the Hunt thread but it seems like all threads degenerate to a QB thread eventually.

pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2017 01:46 PM

I will also note that I do think Alex will open up his aggressiveness more than ever this year. He would be a pure moron not to, as the writing is on the wall.

This is likely his last chance to win with a contending team and if he doesn't let his balls hang a little more, he won't even start by December because this team won't be heading for the playoffs.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12871128)
I don't care what his QBR is, he couldn't muster more than 1 TD per game last season. He failed to put up more than 16 points against a mediocre Pittsburgh defense, at home, coming off a bye.

There are no excuses for that.

Except he swept the division in the process putting the team on his back in thrilling fashion to beat the Chargers and Broncos. **** you and your Pittsburgh game horse shit. our starting field position was garbage because we didn't force punts. Our receivers dropped 5 important passes. West had a boneheaded fumble.

The ignorance is strong with you.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12871130)
Alex Smith was 27th in the NFL in TD passes last year with 15. That is horrendous and a complete waste of money.

QBR was 11th in the league. We were the #1 running team in 2015 but dropped to 20th last seasonPretty sure the trade up for Kareem Hunt speaks to what Dorsey perceived as the problem.


So quit acting like you know better than Dorsey.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 01:52 PM

QBR 50-> 56-> 61-> 63.4 (ranked 11th in the league)
Completion % : 60 -> 65 -> 65 -> 67
Total Td's: 19 -> 22 -> 20

He's improving and the numbers show it. And he did so the past 2 years playing against a top 5 strength of schedule

pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871141)
QBR was 11th in the league. We were the #1 running team in 2015 but dropped to 20th last seasonPretty sure the trade up for Kareem Hunt speaks to what Dorsey perceived as the problem.


So quit acting like you know better than Dorsey.

1) We were never the #1 running team since Smith has been here. ROFL
2) You thought Dorsey knew better than us on Mahomes but we see how that worked out. :D

RunKC 05-13-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871141)
QBR was 11th in the league. We were the #1 running team in 2015 but dropped to 20th last seasonPretty sure the trade up for Kareem Hunt speaks to what Dorsey perceived as the problem.


So quit acting like you know better than Dorsey.

LMAO Dorsey traded up to get a real talent and get rid of an average QB. Hunt was drafted for now and the future.

I love Dorsey.

RunKC 05-13-2017 01:55 PM

Tiger is so hilarious. QBR will never mean more than points scored. That's what the scoreboard counts you moron.

pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871139)
Except he swept the division in the process putting the team on his back in thrilling fashion to beat the Chargers and Broncos. **** you and your Pittsburgh game horse shit. our starting field position was garbage because we didn't force punts. Our receivers dropped 5 important passes. West had a boneheaded fumble.

The ignorance is strong with you.

Lets see... so he gets a pass for being complete dog shit in the first 3 quarters of the Chargers and Broncos games because he played well in the fourth? I see, I see.....

Great QBs don't need to make those comebacks because they don't wait until the fourth f**king quarter to drop their balls loose.

The Pittsburgh game was the same f**king thing, but that time he wasn't able to pull off his fourth quarter bullshit. Its great that he played well in the 4th, yeah, but if you suck ass for the first three, it really doesn't matter.


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