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WhiteWhale 11-20-2017 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13228997)
2014 Alex wins that game vs NYG

What we are seeing is a man in regression
Nonsense.

Alex played above himself for a few week early this season due to Nagy's scheming.

Scheming specifically designed to avoid asking him to be a QB and drop back and read defenses.

He hasn't regressed. This is the Alex we've seen for 5 years. The guy from the early part of the season was clearly an anomaly. Regression to the mean is what we're seeing now, and it's something most of us expected to happen.

Yeah, we HOPED he could ride it out a full season, but that was naive. Seeing Alex struggle against bad defenses is NOT a new thing.

Best22 11-20-2017 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13229002)
Nonsense.

Alex played above himself for a few week early this season due to Nagy's scheming.

Scheming specifically designed to avoid asking him to be a QB and drop back and read defenses.

He hasn't regressed. This is the Alex we've seen for 5 years. The guy from the early part of the season was clearly an anomaly. Regression to the mean is what we're seeing now, and it's something most of us expected to happen.

Yeah, we HOPED he could ride it out a full season, but that was naive. Seeing Alex struggle against bad defenses is NOT a new thing.
Sunday was the worst I've ever seen him play

Simply Red 11-20-2017 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13228665)
Mutha****as admit we ain't going nowhere with Alex but want to stick with him? WHAT ****ING SENSE DOES THAT MAKE? Just to argue with MY ASS and you want to be right? You stupid as a mutha****a. Quit being a little bitch and admit the truth. **** your little personal feeling towards me. MAN UP!!!!
who are you talking to, do you even know?

WhiteWhale 11-20-2017 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13229012)
Sunday was the worst I've ever seen him play
You should rewatch the turd he laid against Tennessee last season.

He played like trash against he Panthers, but hey... Eric Berry and Marcus Peters won the game for him. D can't do that this season.

Best22 11-20-2017 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13229020)
You should rewatch the turd he laid against Tennessee last season.

He played like trash against he Panthers, but hey... Eric Berry and Marcus Peters won the game for him. D can't do that this season.
Yes, this game was worse

First time we failed to score atleast 10 in the Andy Reid era. And it was against a 1-9 team

oldman 11-20-2017 01:09 PM
I was firmly in the "let him sit and learn" crowd until yesterday. I don't care if the wind was blowing 50 MPH, there's no excuse for bouncing passes 5 yards in front of a receiver. Wind won't be a problem in Minneapolis, but there aren't any domes on the road to get there.
You can make all the arguments you want about making him lose his confidence or getting him hurt, but that's football. Play the kid, play him now, and get what you can for Smith in the off season. If we're 1 and done with Mahomes in the post season, so be it. We're not going to get much farther with Smith if even that.

Rasputin 11-20-2017 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13228572)
If Smith continues to play like he has been and Reid refuses to bench him.....then I hope they lose every ****ing game the rest of the season.

We just got embarrassed by one of the worst teams in the NFL this year. There is no guarantee that we win any more games this year.
This is where I'm at. Chiefs deserve to lose if not going give our future a chance and opportunity to do what we drafted him for.

They are really holding back our future by not playing Patrick Mahomes II.

Red Dawg 11-20-2017 01:14 PM
There is no good reason not to play Mahomes any more. Andy is just sticking to his word and now we all get to suffer for it another 6 games.

Marcellus 11-20-2017 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13229042)
There is no good reason not to play Mahomes any more. Andy is just sticking to his word and now we all get to suffer for it another 6 games.
Andy is sticking to his word? Where has Andy ever said he wouldn't play Mahomes?

BigCatDaddy 11-20-2017 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13228991)
Benching Alex now is premature. Allow him to have one more bad start, then pull him. Reid has to know the temperature of the team: he doesn't want to lose them or anger veterans yet. But if Alex starts poorly against the Bills, no one will be able to question it. By then Alex's trade value would be irretrievably lost.

It's all about calculating the right time to make the move. It won't be for Alex's sake, it will all be about doing what's best for the team now and in the future

So let Alex start next week. It will give Reid enough evidence to make the change. And yes, it will happen if this continues. Reid won't stand to get embarrassed by Smith
What makes you think anybody on the team wants to stick with Shitty? I would think most are ready to make the move.

KChiefs1 11-20-2017 01:36 PM
Great listen.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...d-a83100ff60b6

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 11-20-2017 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13228991)
Benching Alex now is premature. Allow him to have one more bad start, then pull him. Reid has to know the temperature of the team: he doesn't want to lose them or anger veterans yet. But if Alex starts poorly against the Bills, no one will be able to question it. By then Alex's trade value would be irretrievably lost.

It's all about calculating the right time to make the move. It won't be for Alex's sake, it will all be about doing what's best for the team now and in the future

So let Alex start next week. It will give Reid enough evidence to make the change. And yes, it will happen if this continues. Reid won't stand to get embarrassed by Smith
Why does he deserve one more start? He had 2 weeks to prepare for one of the worst teams in the league and he played one of his worst games as a Chief. He had his 15 minutes of fame in the first 5 weeks and now teams know how to fluster him. The other players are already angry and throwing in the towel. The only way Andy is going to save this season is by putting Mahomes in and lifting everybody's enthusiasm. Alex doesn't deserve another start, he deserves to be demoted to third string!

ARROW2 11-20-2017 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 13229165)
Why does he deserve one more start? He had 2 weeks to prepare for one of the worst teams in the league and he played one of his worst games as a Chief. He had his 15 minutes of fame in the first 5 weeks and now teams know how to fluster him. The other players are already angry and throwing in the towel. The only way Andy is going to save this season is by putting Mahomes in and lifting everybody's enthusiasm. Alex doesn't deserve another start, he deserves to be demoted to third string!


THIS!!!! What, 13 years, 4 1/2 of which are in KC and the last 5 games are not enough evidence? It drives me ****ing nuts when I hear "If he keeps this up, then bench him..." WHAT DA ****?!! What are we waiting on, the chargers to catch us?

ToxSocks 11-20-2017 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13229002)
Nonsense.

Alex played above himself for a few week early this season due to Nagy's scheming.

Scheming specifically designed to avoid asking him to be a QB and drop back and read defenses.

He hasn't regressed. This is the Alex we've seen for 5 years. The guy from the early part of the season was clearly an anomaly. Regression to the mean is what we're seeing now, and it's something most of us expected to happen.

Yeah, we HOPED he could ride it out a full season, but that was naive. Seeing Alex struggle against bad defenses is NOT a new thing.
I don't think he's regressed so much as teams have adjusted. Alex has said this, hell even Kelce has said this.

The team can't beat Cover-2. And by team, the QB.

Alex was taking shots when he had 1v1 chances downfield...aka man coverage.

Teams woke up after the Steelers game and put a stop to that shit.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2017 03:07 PM
50,000 views and 650 shares on the Mahomes video on FB.

Arrowhead is ready.


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