Whenever I think of Drew Brees, I think of this commercial more than anything on the football field, and this commercial is horrific. I had never heard of "hot yoga" at the time, so I thought his hot yoga line was an incredibly awkward flirting thing.

I couldn't vote for Brees for MVP solely because of this commercial. You just don't do that kind of thing.

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People aren't going to vote Brees over Mahomes because they like him more. Mahomes is breaking Brees' records.

Also people like Mahomes.

That was horrid but Brees won the lottery in life even with that thing on the side of his face.

Man, **** Drew Brees. Man’s been in the league for like 17 season. If he hasn’t won an MVP by now then he just wasn’t good enough?

Has there even been a season in which the dude got snubbed? His best season I saw at a quick glance was 2011 with like 42 TDs and 12 INTs or something. Unfortunately for him, Rodgers threw 45 TDs and only 6 INTs.

I would vote for mahomes. But when I compare him to brees, it's really hard to see brees isn't just as deserving. And it's a total sham that brees doesn't have an mvp by now. Much as I'd like to say mahomes is the clear winner, it's pretty much a toss up and I'm glad as hell that mahomes is one of two runaway candidates for mvp, let alone against an obvious first ballot hall of famer.

It's not a toss-up. 18 TDs for Brees is 38% less TDs than Mahomes. That is not negligible; it's SIGNIFICANT. (Edit: I did forget Brees has missed a week but we are debating it right now, and even IF you give him let's say 3 TD in the week Mahomes misses, he's still miles behind either way.)

Mahomes is the MVP and it's not really close tbh. It's really not. Same way the DPOY race isn't close even though a few players have similar sacks to Donald, 1 even with more.

Just compare last year’s Chiefs offense with this year’s Chiefs offense. What has changed? It’s as if one player has elevated the team by a gigantic, historic margin, making said team a Super Bowl contender even though most preseason experts didn’t even have them winning their own division.

This is so awesome.

Right now its not close. Mahomes has MVP numbers good for any season anyone has ever had. Wins to match not to mention against a highly ranked schedule. So far it's him.

Ok. Not even being condescending- which season did he get snubbed for MVP?

Last week people were saying Gurly was the MVP over Mahomes.

Hunt is gaining on him- 16 total TD's to Hunt's 13 Total Td's

So the L A Lambs lose and now it is Brees over Mahomes-lol

Brees is having a fine year, but Mahomes is redefining the QB position.

2009 and 2011

2009 - you have to have an absolutely elite season to justify back to back mvps. Brees had every right to win that mvp over Peyton

2011 - Rodgers had an outstanding season, but brees had a record shattering season

There have been plenty of others. There have been plenty of other seasons where brees was very very much in the conversation. But those two are the most obvious.

Nah, **** all that. I'll argue that Aaron Rodgers' 2010 postseason continuing into his 2011 regular season was the best stretch any QB's played in NFL history. Brees' season was great but he was only even mentioned because of volume stats. He put up 5,400 yards to Rodgers' 4,600 but it took him 150 more attempts to do so. Rodgers literally averaged a full yard more per attempt. They both threw for 45 TDs but Rodgers only threw 6 INTs to Brees' 14.

Rodgers' 2011 legitimately shits on Brees'.

2009 is a better argument. Brees was statistically better than Peyton but Manning took that team to 14-0 before he sat out and they finally lost a game.

Even if you contend that Brees should have won, it's hardly a snub. That was also the year that CJ2k went over 2,000 and Brett Favre went off as well.

Also, I don't give a shit about passing yards. EASILY the most overrated statistic in football.

This is a touchdown league, and 29 is more than 18. That's a big gap.

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Also Brees is ceding snaps to Hill.

Heel get back to you.