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Best22 11-22-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 13910217)
My concern is the New Orleans Saints, they are good on both sides of the ball.

I’d be very thankful to play a stacked Saints team

Marcellus 11-22-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13910263)
I’d be very thankful to play a stacked Saints team

No shit, cause it would be in the SB!!!!!

Jerok 11-22-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13910270)
No shit, cause it would be in the SB!!!!!

No wai!

Chiefshrink 11-22-2018 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13909882)
I'd take Goff over Drew Brees.

I wouldn't. Brees accuracy is just amazing and is better than both Goff and Mahomes IMHO and that is not a knock on either Goff or Mahomes. But you can see that Brees is truly in the 'zone' when it comes to accuracy and making the correct reads. Goff said he still struggles with taking his strides to deep on his drops in the pocket which cause him to dirt some balls and we saw that a couple of times Mon night. Mahomes is still learning not to overthrow especially on the med to deep routes.

jaa1025 11-23-2018 12:22 AM

I was actually disappointed watching Goff. He absolutely crumbles against pressure or when he has to play off script. He's playing with the best line and some of the best talent on offense and most of the time, he's got plenty of time and a very good scheme. I now understand why people say he's a system QB.

HemiEd 11-23-2018 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 13909898)
They didn’t use Gurley so how can you say he is overrated by watching that game?

Yeah, I have seen games where he dominated. The Chiefs D was set up to stop him I guess.

petegz28 11-23-2018 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13910534)
Yeah, I have seen games where he dominated. The Chiefs D was set up to stop him I guess.

They said he was battling a bit of an ankle injury

BigRedChief 11-23-2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13910534)
Yeah, I have seen games where he dominated. The Chiefs D was set up to stop him I guess.

His ankle got rolled up on early in the game. It was that play the Chiefs player pushed him out of bounds and then fell on his ankle and legs. He was mainly used as a decoy after that. He is the real deal. He'd kill our D in a rematch unless a healthy Barry is in there helping with the run.

Hydrae 11-23-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13910502)
I was actually disappointed watching Goff. He absolutely crumbles against pressure or when he has to play off script. He's playing with the best line and some of the best talent on offense and most of the time, he's got plenty of time and a very good scheme. I now understand why people say he's a system QB.

I agree with this. Goff missed a number of passes the other night and seemed to lack a little bit in his accuracy. I saw a "good" QB, not a "great" QB in that game.

Best22 11-23-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13910576)
I agree with this. Goff missed a number of passes the other night and seemed to lack a little bit in his accuracy. I saw a "good" QB, not a "great" QB in that game.

“Good” is pretty amazing for a 3rd year starter

Mahomes is just having a ridiculous season

Buckweath 11-23-2018 09:53 AM

Goff is very good and will be very good. McVay's system obviously help him but I believe he is very good regardless of that system.

I believe he needs a strong OL though, not Mahomes.

bowener 11-23-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13909882)
I'd take Goff over Drew Brees too but not over Patrick Mahomes II

I think Mahomes and Goff are the best two quarterbacks in the league right now. Brees has the better defense and same coach for a long time that they are on the same page. Brees may have a few years left but his time is winding down and his records are going be up for grabs by Sir Patrick Mahomes II



Patrick is going have 500 touchdowns in the least amount of seasons in the 500 club.

I'm not necessarily asking you specifically, but looking ahead about 5 years or so I am intrigued by the future of the NFL. I hope Goff stays as good as he has been this year, and Wentz returns to form so that we get to see those two duke it out in the NFC for years to come. Maybe Trubisky sneaks in there with them.

Just sticking with current NFL QBs, who will be Mahomes' career challenger in a similar vein to Brady and Manning? I want the Browns to succeed, but I don't think Mayfield will ever be elite. Maybe it is Andrew Luck? But he is currently 29 with a serious injury history. I must admit I do find it pleasing to imagine bouncing the Colts from the AFCCG every year. Deshaun Watson? If he can stay healthy and doesn't fall off as he ages and slows down I could see him being a challenger.

R8RFAN 11-23-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13910598)
“Good” is pretty amazing for a 3rd year starter

Mahomes is just having a ridiculous season

Mahomes is gonna do nothing but get better too..

Hate you guys got such a good QB but I will give credit where it's due..... The kid is legit


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