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'Hamas' Jenkins 04-18-2019 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by James Angleton (Post 14213942)
ROFL like I give a shit about a message board and your 40k post lifestyle

Nice life accomplishment inbred loser :cuss:

Is that World Series banner hanging in your apartment? Good for you. I’ll enjoy our ballpark, weather, and my house which is valued 5x yours :drool:

I'm going to San Diego in about five weeks. Staying in Gaslamp. Any tips on places to go/see?

ChiefsCountry 04-18-2019 09:01 PM

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lewdog 04-18-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14213951)
I'm going to San Diego in about five weeks. Staying in Gaslamp. Any tips on places to go/see?

You've got 70k posts on a message board.

Can't believe you're getting out of your apartment to go to San Diego.

James Angleton 04-18-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14213951)
I'm going to San Diego in about five weeks. Staying in Gaslamp. Any tips on places to go/see?

Do you drink?

Downtown:
The Whiskey House (Best Happy Hour in San Diego)
Fairweather (somewhat hidden bar overlooking Petco Park)
Rustic Root (rooftop place - food and drinks)
The Nolen (rooftop bar)
Barleymash (lively area. Nice snatch around)
Born & Raised (Little Italy area - about 5 minutes Uber ride from downtown)
Bottle Craft (Little Italy location - nice beer bar about 5 mins from downtown. Cool because the they have a great beer selection and the airplanes fly right overhead.)


Breweries:
Mission Brewery (about 2 minute walk from Petco Park

James Angleton 04-18-2019 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14213957)
You've got 70k posts on a message board.

Can't believe you're getting out of your apartment to go to San Diego.

Is that you father?

RealSNR 04-18-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by James Angleton (Post 14213942)
ROFL like I give a shit about a message board and your 40k post lifestyle

Nice life accomplishment inbred loser :cuss:

Is that World Series banner hanging in your apartment? Good for you. I’ll enjoy our ballpark, weather, and my house which is valued 5x yours :drool:

Flags fly forever, bundle of sticks

RealSNR 04-18-2019 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14213949)
That's rich man. I don't live in an apartment.

But if I did, I'd sure as shit fly my TWO KC Royals World Series banners!!!!!

You can enjoy not having ONE ****ing World Series banner in your monstrous house, loser.

Come to think of it, does SD claim home to a world championship in any sport? Oh that's right....**** you!!!!

Monstrous house? It's California. His expensive house is probably an 80-year old cardboard box in the drainage ditch off an interstate exit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-19-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14213957)
You've got 70k posts on a message board.

Can't believe you're getting out of your apartment to go to San Diego.

Chiefsplanet server comped me after 70K.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 11:10 AM

Some deals just don't work out. It happens.

Other deals never had a snowballs chance in hell of working out.

The Hosmer deal is the latter. I never understood the idea that the guy was worth anything more than a 2-3 year deal for maybe $15 million/per. Ol' Boras snookered an owner yet again.

If you made every player in baseball a FA and allowed teams to do conversions to 1b and things of that nature, I don't imagine Hosmer would be one of the top 50 1b taken. Especially if you include the minors and start bringing in guys like Yordan Alvarez in Houston's system.

That contract was bad from the second it was signed, not unlike the Chris Davis or Dexter Fowler deals. Sometimes you see a contract and think 'damn, that's risky'. Other times you see a contract and just say "huh?". For every client that Boras has screwed over, he has a guy like Hosmer that he's made far FAR richer than he ever had any business being.

Chiefspants 04-19-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14211724)
ROFL ROFL

Please God tell me this is true.

Uh, try a professional firefighter.

Prison Bitch 04-19-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14214840)
Some deals just don't work out. It happens.

Other deals never had a snowballs chance in hell of working out.

The Hosmer deal is the latter. I never understood the idea that the guy was worth anything more than a 2-3 year deal for maybe $15 million/per. Ol' Boras snookered an owner yet again.

If you made every player in baseball a FA and allowed teams to do conversions to 1b and things of that nature, I don't imagine Hosmer would be one of the top 50 1b taken. Especially if you include the minors and start bringing in guys like Yordan Alvarez in Houston's system.

That contract was bad from the second it was signed, not unlike the Chris Davis or Dexter Fowler deals. Sometimes you see a contract and think 'damn, that's risky'. Other times you see a contract and just say "huh?". For every client that Boras has screwed over, he has a guy like Hosmer that he's made far FAR richer than he ever had any business being.


I disagree with every bit of that.

Hoz was coming of a 4.1 win season age 28, when he became a FA. He was 4th in the AL in obp (behind guys named Trout, Judge, Altuve). He hit 25 jacks with a swing carrying tons of untapped power potential. He never misses time. He can run well. Teammates and coaches love him.

To suggest that was only worth 2-3 years at 15/per is nothing but revisionist history.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14214885)
I disagree with every bit of that.

Hoz was coming of a 4.1 win season age 28, when he became a FA. He was 4th in the AL in obp (behind guys named Trout, Judge, Altuve). He hit 25 jacks with a swing carrying tons of untapped power potential. He never misses time. He can run well. Teammates and coaches love him.

To suggest that was only worth 2-3 years at 15/per is nothing but revisionist history.

Except that I said it at the time. There was nothing in that high-maintenance, low loft swing of his (or his track record) to suggest that his 2017 season was likely to be the norm going forward. If you're projecting you're looking at a 20 HR 1b w/ solid OBP skills and mediocre defense.

So, what, a slightly better version of Justin Bour? Bour got non-tendered and took a 1 year, $2.5 million deal just to find a place to play. The only meaningful distinction between Bour and Hosmer is that Hosmer makes more contact. But Bour hits for a lot more power. Hosmer makes more contact because he has a slappy mess of a swing that avoids Ks in favor of slowly hit groundballs. That's not exactly an ideal trade off.

'Revisionist history' says he's worth a minor league deal with a spring training invite. Giving him 3/$45 would've STILL been overpaying based on what he's provided.

And no, there's no chance he'd have ever had to settle for that because there's always a team or two willing to bite on Boras's voodoo. But that doesn't mean that the contract wasn't doomed to fail from the start - it absolutely was.

Prison Bitch 04-19-2019 12:00 PM

Justin Bour???

HemiEd 04-19-2019 12:41 PM

Wish the Royals had Wil Meyers.

Prison Bitch 05-03-2019 01:16 PM

Hosmer 129 PA, 5hr, 20rbi .261avg 98wRC+
Machado 129 PA, 5hr, 14rbi .235avg 94wRC+


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