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Wilson8 06-17-2019 10:40 PM

Minnesota Vikings could be a potential trade partner because they are up against a cap space problem both for 2019 and 2020. A week ago the Vikings only had $1 M of cap space but some recent contract changes now shows the Vikings with $5 M of cap space. Mike Hughes is trying to recover from a torn ACL injury and Holton Hill has been suspended for 4 games. Not having these two players might make Minnesota more likely to wait until a few games into season to make a trade.

• 20 Mackensie Alexander CB 25 years old with 1 year left on contract for $1,373,370.
• 49 Terrence Alexander CB
• 38 Kris Boyd CB
• 24 Holton Hill CB
• 21 Mike Hughes CB
• 36 Craig James CB
• 44 Nate Meadors CB
• 29 Xavier Rhodes CB – 28 years old, 4 years on contract at $13,337,500, $12,900,000, $14,150.000,and $13,850,000
• 34 Duke Thomas CB
• 26 Trae Waynes CB 26 years old with 1 year left on contract for $9,069,000

Wilson8 06-17-2019 10:44 PM

Not a trade partner but a possible CB pickup for Chiefs.


Pittsburgh Steelers
• 29 Brian Allen CB
• 25 Artie Burns CB 24 years old, 1 year contract with $956.862 base but Steelers could save $1,757.862 with cut.
• 23 Joe Haden CB
• 28 Mike Hilton CB
• 38 Kameron Kelly CB
• 31 Justin Layne CB
• 33 Alexander Myres CB
• 22 Steven Nelson CB
• 20 Cameron Sutton CB
• 35 Herb Waters CB

If the Pittsburgh Steelers (Only $1 M Cap Space) were to release Artie Burns, he could be a possibility. He is only 24 years old and could compete for playing time with this secondary. Burns is due $800,000 if Steelers keep him when training camp starts on July 26th.

Wilson8 06-17-2019 10:47 PM

Philadelphia Eagles another possible trade partner

• 21 Ronald Darby CB 5-11, 193, age 25, 1 year 6.5 M, only 17 total games in last two seasons
• 32 Rasul Douglas CB 6-2, 209, age 25, 1 year left for $2,044,214. Seven starts in 2 years
• 48 Josh Hawkins CB
• 22 Sidney Jones CB 23 years old two years on contract at $1,674,564 and $1,953,658
• 34 Cre'Von LeBlanc CB 24 years old with 1 year contract for $720,000
• 46 Jay Liggins CB
• 29 Avonte Maddox CB 23 years old with 3 year contract at $726,478, $816,478, and $906,478
• 38 Jeremiah McKinnon CB
• 31 Jalen Mills CB 25 years old with 1 year on contract for $2,044,214

JakeF 06-17-2019 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14312093)
Somebody from the receiver pool is going to be used as trade-bait for a CB. There will be a trade written up and ready to go as soon as Hill returns to the lineup.

We don't have an abundance of proven WR.

we can't afford to lose Hill
Watkins is still an injury concern
We aren't trading Hardman
I doubt Robinson or Pringle has significant value

The rest of our WRs aren't worth much yet.

Dieter, Gehrig
Grayson, Davon
Custis, Jamal
Thompson, Cody
Kemp, Marcus
Davis III, Felton
Davis, Rashard
Forson, Joe

So which WR will bring us significant CB talent without handicapping our offense?

Wilson8 06-17-2019 10:55 PM

Patrick Peterson trade with Cardinals might happen a few games into the season.

Cards schedule of first six games Lions, Ravens, Panthers, Seahawks, Bengals, and Falcons.

Dependent on how those games go while Peterson serves his suspension might affect a possible trade.


Cards then play Giants and Saints. The Saints game would be October 27th which is two days before the NFL trade deadline of October 29th.

Wilson8 06-17-2019 10:57 PM

So as others have said, it's possible we start the season with what we have at CB with a possibility of a trade during the season.

Wilson8 06-17-2019 11:00 PM

We don't have WR depth and value that would allow us to trade for a good CB.

JakeF 06-17-2019 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14312424)
We don't have WR depth and value that would allow us to trade for a good CB.

I agree, especially if Kelce gets hurt. We need Hardman to be productive his 1st season.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-17-2019 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14312416)
We don't have an abundance of proven WR.

we can't afford to lose Hill
Watkins is still an injury concern
We aren't trading Hardman
I doubt Robinson or Pringle has significant value

The rest of our WRs aren't worth much yet.

Dieter, Gehrig
Grayson, Davon
Custis, Jamal
Thompson, Cody
Kemp, Marcus
Davis III, Felton
Davis, Rashard
Forson, Joe

So which WR will bring us significant CB talent without handicapping our offense?

According to incoming reports, we're very much headed to having an abundance of WR talent and I'll be ****ed if we're carrying 10 Receivers into the season. We're at a point where our projected #4 could handle #2 duties with ease on a less talented roster and we WILL use that to pull a CB trade.

BossChief 06-17-2019 11:27 PM

Thanks, Wilson8. Good stuff! Maybe add Jalen Ramsey and Jacksonville to the list?

Guys I’d be interested in...

Hilton Hill
Trae Wayne
Rasul Douglas
Sidney Jones
Jalen Ramsey
Patrick Peterson
Xavier Rhodes

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Fuller
Breeland
Ward
Fields
Reasor

My preference is obviously a fully elite guy like PP or Ramsey, but I’d gladly take any of those guys.

BossChief 06-17-2019 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14312430)
According to incoming reports, we're very much headed to having an abundance of WR talent and I'll be ****ed if we're carrying 10 Receivers into the season. We're at a point where our projected #4 could handle #2 duties with ease on a less talented roster and we WILL use that to pull a CB trade.

Mahomes is going to get a lot of guys promoted and priced out of town.

Like Ray Lewis in Baltimore, or Peyton everywhere he went.

I’m not sure the WRs have increased value yet, but they will.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-17-2019 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14312441)
Mahomes is going to get a lot of guys promoted and priced out of town.

Like Ray Lewis in Baltimore, or Peyton everywhere he went.

I’m not sure the WRs have increased value yet, but they will.

Yep

Redbled 06-18-2019 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14312441)
Mahomes is going to get a lot of guys promoted and priced out of town.

Like Ray Lewis in Baltimore, or Peyton everywhere he went.

I’m not sure the WRs have increased value yet, but they will.


Mahomes got Wilson paid above his worth with one game.

RunKC 06-18-2019 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14311251)
There is like zero chance Veach doesn't trade for a CB IMO.

Right now the CB situation has the potential to just ruin the defense.

Fuller is good.

Breeland you hope he can stay healthy and then hope he can be good. That guy was signed for cheaper than Jason "made of glass" Verrett. Think about that for a second.

Ward looks like he could be decent but that's again hoping.

Keenan Allen as far as I'm concerned is absolutely right laughing at that group of CBs.

Now you add a good one and it looks like a solid group.

Breeland was going to get paid big money and actually had that contract offer to him until his foot problem showed up, so yes he was considered a quality starting Corner. He looked like that corner to and Green Bay last year. 2 INT’s, 4 passes defended and a return TD in only five game started? This guy is a starting caliber corner and he’s proven it.

I’m proud of Veach for not going full reerun in the draft and trading way up into the early second for a corner because honestly I thought there was a strong chance he would’ve done that.

Keep an eye on Peterson and both corners in Minnesota, but don’t get butt ****ed into giving up too much for one of those guys.

It’s ridiculous to say the position will ruin our season as if we are the only team that has that situation. Literally every team in the league has a position where you could say that.

O.city 06-18-2019 10:07 AM

I would love Ramsey, but his comments about getting paid make me pretty leery you could actually make that work.


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