Agreed. Rankin was an improvement. At this point, I don't know how much more dumpster diving we can do.

I don't think changing 3 of 5 OL with 4 games left in the season would be smart. Especially since one of them isn't even on the roster.

Wiz should be starting at RG though.

I don't think changing 3 of 5 OL with 4 games left in the season would be smart. Especially since one of them isn't even on the roster.

Wiz should be starting at LG though.

Allen really wouldn't be an improvement, either. At this point, the improvement just about has to come from within. Rankin looked really solid. I'd hope that Allegretti could do something similar down the road.

On a somewhat related note, anyone have access to PFF player grades? I'd love to know how NFL centers compare this season.

I really believed we were approaching a point where rankin started at LG and wis would end up at c, now were patchworking.

No no no. Stud Linebacker who can do it all please.

Hmm, maybe taking an OL or 2 early in the draft would have been better than taking some loser fat **** like Breeland Speaks.

It's been a weakness during Reid's entire tenure and he refused to change the scheme either due to stubbornness or ignorance. Andy Heck needs to be gone yesterday.

Imagine Mahomes behind a power blocking behemoth of a line. The light in the pants OL they prefer should theoretically be better in pass pro, but that's not even the case. Mahomes is athletic and can avoid the rush. Change the scheme to a power blocking scheme with some stout mother ****ers. Get a run game that can turn Mahomes into an assassin from play action passes. But it'll never happen with Reid. We'll sign some middling free agent or two and draft a fatty or two in the 5-6 round range. Rinse and repeat.

Doesn't even need to be a 1st. Just take a guy in the 2-3 range. They just can't keep waiting until the end of the draft to address the position like they have.

Our best OL is probably

LT Fisher
LG Erving
C Wisnewski
RG Wylie
RT Schwartz

LDT does just fine at RG when he only has to pick up his guy. It's far too often he has to contend with Reiter's guy.
I've watched a bit more of college ball this year and a couple guards have impressed me, Bredson from Michigan and Kindley from Georgia. But we do have to think about bringing a quality tackle on board. Mitch and Fish aren't getting any younger.
Once we have the AFCW locked up, I'd like to see what we have in some of our backups (PMII out of the game, of course). It's time to fish or cut bait with some of our OL.

That's actually a damn interesting point.

LDT was hurt for most of the time he'd have played alongside Morse last year, right? And he was actually looking very good in the first few games before his injury (when Morse was alongside him, IIRC).

Maybe that's a big part of it. I hadn't considered it, but it's possible that Reiter is having a negative impact on LDT.

I really think we need to get Wisniewski in there as quickly as possible. We have to know if he can provide an upgrade. If he can't, there's little harm done in trying. It's not like he's going to expose Mahomes any more than Reiter already has.

I'm curious why Veach thought he could let Morse walk without finding an adequate replacement. That makes absolutely no sense, unless they were seriously counting on Allegretti.

Reiter played quite a bit last year, I'm guessing they were comfortable with that.

I don't have a huge problem letting Morse walk. The concussion issue and the amount of money he got, it was the right choice.

The issue was not replacing him with something better than Reiter. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.

Reiter looked promising last year imo. At the time, most of us were fine with Reiter taking over.