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Red Dawg 03-25-2020 03:10 PM

No way. Trading Watson would be indefensible. Only way is if Watson just flat out refuses to play there.

Shields68 03-25-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14867311)
I fully expect the patriots to tank this year using the loss of brady as an excuse in order to position themselves into a place where they can draft trevor lawrence

Not a chance. Bill's ego won't allow it. Too much Defensive talent.

RunKC 03-25-2020 03:17 PM

They’ll fire Bob before they ever give any thought of putting DeShaun on the market.

Red Dawg 03-25-2020 03:31 PM

Watson would have to severely force the issue. I don't see him doing that over Hopkins. WRs dont drive win and loses enough.

DaFace 03-25-2020 03:34 PM

I don't want him to end up anywhere else in the AFC, but for his sake I do hope he can move to a competent organization at some point in his career.

RN47 03-25-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 14867232)
I know most of you guys are old as **** but Watson is quoting a Drake song. I hardly think that counts as a precursor to a trade. Probably a little upset that his star receiver got traded- that's all.

Watson is the Texans franchise.

You’re so cool. Can you tell me more about what the cool white kids pretend to like these days?

RN47 03-25-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 14867249)
He just shouting out his favorite Drake & Lil Uzi songs.

Id dat wit he do?

RealSNR 03-25-2020 04:06 PM

Aren't the Texans kind of in Bronco limbo right now? Bob McNair passed away, and from what I understand, nobody is really at the top to lead things (or hire a real GM for that matter) so the people who are currently the technical owners are just like, "Uhh... we're not sure what the hell to do with this franchise so... here ya go, Bill"

TEX 03-25-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14867539)
Aren't the Texans kind of in Bronco limbo right now? Bob McNair passed away, and from what I understand, nobody is really at the top to lead things (or hire a real GM for that matter) so the people who are currently the technical owners are just like, "Uhh... we're not sure what the hell to do with this franchise so... here ya go, Bill"

No. McNair's son Cal is in charge. He's just given the wrong guy, BOB, all the power. It's weird because before last season, Cal set expectations and said that "Everyone would be held accountable." BOB went public with that and subsequently made some moves to "win now." So, when he lost to KC the way that he did in the playoffs, most thought that would be it for BOB, because of the whole "accountability" thing. SURPRISE!
Cal has bought into the whole "Patriot Way" culture / way of doing business, and is letting BOB and Jack Easterby (also from New England) do what they want to do in order to "shape" the team. I think IF / WHEN it becomes clear to Cal that BOB's version of the "Patriot Way" is not working and is in fact holding Deshawn Watson back, BOB and Easterby will be shown the door. Who knows how long that will take?...

I remember when Bob McNair died last year, it was thought that Cal would be different from his father. John McClain, a HOF Sports Writer that has covered Houston sports for 40+ years, was comparing the Texans situation to the Chiefs, when Lamar died and Clark took over. Saying that Clark clearly had a different direction for the team than Lamar did, and mentioned the firing of Peterson and Herm and the hiring of Scott Pioli and Todd Haley - and the firing of Pioli and hiring Reid / Dorsey, when Clark knew that he made a mistake - then the firing of Dorsey. The thinking was that BOB would be out because Cal was NOT like his father and would not be one to maintain something that was not working. Or would not double down on a mistake by keeping it around too long... Fast forward to the other day, when Hopkins was traded for peanuts (like Clowney before him). McClain said that the reality is that Cal is acting just like his father. So, no telling how long it will continue.

RealSNR 03-25-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14867726)
No. McNair's son Cal is in charge. He's just given the wrong guy, BOB, all the power. It's weird because before last season, Cal set expectations and said that "Everyone would be held accountable." BOB went public with that and subsequently made some moves to "win now." So, when he lost to KC the way that he did in the playoffs, most thought that would be it for BOB, because of the whole "accountability" thing. SURPRISE!
Cal has bought into the whole "Patriot Way" culture / way of doing business, and is letting BOB and Jack Easterby (also from New England) do what they want to do in order to "shape" the team. I think IF / WHEN it becomes clear to Cal that BOB's version of the "Patriot Way" is not working and is in fact holding Deshawn Watson back, BOB and Easterby will be shown the door. Who knows how long that will take?...

I remember when Bob McNair died last year, it was thought that Cal would be different from his father. John McClain, a HOF Sports Writer that has covered Houston sports for 40+ years, was comparing the Texans situation to the Chiefs, when Lamar died and Clark took over. Saying that Clark clearly had a different direction for the team than Lamar did, and mentioned the firing of Peterson and Herm and the hiring of Scott Pioli and Todd Haley - and the firing of Pioli and hiring Reid / Dorsey, when Clark knew that he made a mistake - then the firing of Dorsey. The thinking was that BOB would be out because Cal was NOT like his father and would not be one to maintain something that was not working. Or would not double down on a mistake by keeping it around too long... Fast forward to the other day, when Hopkins was traded for peanuts (like Clowney before him). McClain said that the reality is that Cal is acting just like his father. So, no telling how long it will continue.

Ah, yeah. Jack Easterby. The so-called "character coach." The apparent savior in New England who wasn't able to coach the character of possibly the league's best WR.

This is completely separate from the post you made, but I need to rant again about the Patriot Way because of everything we went through under Pioli years ago. What a joke the Patriot Way mentality is. I've never seen anything ****ing like it. Andy Reid disciples get head coaching jobs elsewhere and don't seem to insist on referring to where they came from or who they were surrounded by. Same goes for any other coaching tree in the league. Marty had a nice little coaching tree himself, and I never once saw his coaches go to other teams and talk about the "gleam" or how much the Raiders suck.

New England acted shocked and upset when Easterby left, but we all know they're just full of shit, and this Easterby jackass is probably no different than Pioli, Patricia, O'Brien, and the rest of those turds. Pompous attitudes. Insistence that culture can just be replicated from one team to the next and that if it ain't exactly the Patriots culture, there's no way that team can win a Super Bowl. Closed-mindedness. No room for creativity.

Chiefshrink 03-25-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14867387)
Watson would have to severely force the issue. I don't see him doing that over Hopkins. WRs dont drive win and loses enough.

Tell that to Montana when he QB'd the Chiefs. Those were the only pieces missing from winning the SB. Had we had a couple of serious legit No.1 WRs......

displacedinMN 03-25-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14867204)
Deshaun Watson might be on the move? Are the Texans just stupid?

From his twitter account:

https://twitter.com/deshaunwatson/st...11461159297024

Those are two entirely different questions.

Red Dawg 03-25-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 14867787)
Tell that to Montana when he QB'd the Chiefs. Those were the only pieces missing from winning the SB. Had we had a couple of serious legit No.1 WRs......

Just saying. The best WRs in the game have won nothing. They are not the driving force for team succes. You need a good group, not one guy yiu have to feed. Jones, Hopkins, Moss and countless others are studs with no rings.

PAChiefsGuy 03-25-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14867835)
Just saying. The best WRs in the game have won nothing. They are not the driving force for team succes. You need a good group, not one guy yiu have to feed. Jones, Hopkins, Moss and countless others are studs with no rings.

Jerry Rice? Michael Irvin? Plenty of star WRs with rings buddy.

TomBarndtsTwin 03-25-2020 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14867835)
Just saying. The best WRs in the game have won nothing. They are not the driving force for team succes. You need a good group, not one guy yiu have to feed. Jones, Hopkins, Moss and countless others are studs with no rings.

Tyreek has a Super Bowl ring. :D


(well, he will shortly)


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