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JakeF 10-13-2020 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 15240995)
Since you played football, I trust your analysis 100%
What the **** does that have to do with anything other than you being a smartass? So you think that Schwartz is playing up to his same normal level?

DaneMcCloud 10-13-2020 11:50 AM
Guys like Schwartz rarely fall of a cliff. Most likely, he's dealing with a high ankle sprain, which also happened to him a few years back.

Hopefully, he'll continue to receive treatment for what appears to be a high ankle sprain and get it to the point where he's back to normal, although that may be difficult with this apparent injury occurring so early in the season.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-13-2020 11:57 AM
Problem is Mahomes. He’s dropping way too far back and is t stepping up in the pocket. He can do that because of his arm but he needs to go back to the basics

RockChalk 10-13-2020 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15241048)
What the **** does that have to do with anything other than you being a smartass? So you think that Schwartz is playing up to his same normal level?
Cross thread humor. Lighten up, buddy.

Schwartz isn't playing his best ball at the moment, but he's not the problem with our O-Line.

htismaqe 10-13-2020 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15241067)
Problem is Mahomes. He’s dropping way too far back and is t stepping up in the pocket. He can do that because of his arm but he needs to go back to the basics
Hi there Geoff.

htismaqe 10-13-2020 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 15241101)
Schwartz isn't playing his best ball at the moment, but he's not the problem with our O-Line.
Actually right now it is an issue.

The whole line has problems and if Schwartz is nursing an injury, that's part of it.

RockChalk 10-13-2020 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15241271)
Actually right now it is an issue.

The whole line has problems and if Schwartz is nursing an injury, that's part of it.
Suppose I meant that moreso as he is not the worst of the problem. Yes, his injury and play is cause for concern, but the interior 3 are the biggest issue in my opinion.

dlphg9 10-13-2020 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 15240833)
We'll be on pins-n-needles waiting on your all 22 analysis.
I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to O line play. I'm not claiming to be an expert.

Also your reply doesn't make any sense. I'm not sure why your acting like a bitter bitch, but maybe get more sleep or something.

dlphg9 10-13-2020 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15241004)
A clue from his Twitter timeline.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright y&#39;all want to do this. I&#39;ll play along. <br><br>The ball is snapped on the 32. The LDE over the RT runs around the corner at the 21 yard line. That&#39;s 11 yards. The QB is supposed to drop no more than 10, and even that&#39;s pushing it. Then climb the pocket. The pocket is clean <a href="https://t.co/FSlCkwSQT8">https://t.co/FSlCkwSQT8</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1315707479251136512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Geoff is wrong here. He's only dropping back to the 22 yard line. So he's within his 10 yards or whatever. Also that is not a clean pocket because Fisher gets pushed into the pocket. If Mahomes steps up. Into the pocket Fishers guy is sacking him or Schwartz's guy is gonna force him to leave the pocket anyways and we get the same result. Mahomes is buying himself time by running towards the sideline because no one is open.

Watch that play and tell me that Schwartz didn't just get completely beat and that it's Mahomes' fault. That's insane.

Schwartz needs to stop getting so defensive of little Schwartz.

Megatron96 10-13-2020 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15241321)
Geoff is wrong here. He's only dropping back to the 22 yard line. So he's within his 10 yards or whatever. Also that is not a clean pocket because Fisher gets pushed into the pocket. If Mahomes steps up. Into the pocket Fishers guy is sacking him or Schwartz's guy is gonna force him to leave the pocket anyways and we get the same result. Mahomes is buying himself time by running towards the sideline because no one is open.

Watch that play and tell me that Schwartz didn't just get completely beat and that it's Mahomes' fault. That's insane.

Schwartz needs to stop getting so defensive of little Schwartz.
Eh, IF Mahomes had just taken a 7 yard drop, Schwartz probably would've been able to engage the rusher. But the fact is that Schwartz never gets his hands on the guy. Is that Patrick's drop or does Schwartz just not get off the snap very well? Maybe a combination of both?

One could say that if Patrick had just stepped up into the pocket from the snap or just not taken a drop, the defender would've had to take a much shallower angle, and Schwartz would've had a much easier time, but I think that's over-thinking it a bit. Patrick isn't prescient, for cripes' sake.

RunKC 10-13-2020 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15241004)
A clue from his Twitter timeline.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright y&#39;all want to do this. I&#39;ll play along. <br><br>The ball is snapped on the 32. The LDE over the RT runs around the corner at the 21 yard line. That&#39;s 11 yards. The QB is supposed to drop no more than 10, and even that&#39;s pushing it. Then climb the pocket. The pocket is clean <a href="https://t.co/FSlCkwSQT8">https://t.co/FSlCkwSQT8</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1315707479251136512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Geoff is right and there’s a clear sign: Pat stepped up in the pocket later in the game quite a bit, and he was having success.

So someone on the staff, or Pat himself, adjusted.

Hoover 10-13-2020 02:23 PM
I think he's too busy cooking food and designing his kitchen remodel.


LOL

oldman 10-13-2020 03:59 PM
I think it's an injury.

TRR 10-13-2020 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15241052)
Guys like Schwartz rarely fall of a cliff. Most likely, he's dealing with a high ankle sprain, which also happened to him a few years back.

Hopefully, he'll continue to receive treatment for what appears to be a high ankle sprain and get it to the point where he's back to normal, although that may be difficult with this apparent injury occurring so early in the season.
Completely agree. I believe he got rolled up on towards the end of the Ravens game. Re-tweaked it again in both the NE and OAK games. He hobbled off early in the OAK game to have it taped up.

dannybcaitlyn 10-13-2020 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15241377)
I think he's too busy cooking food and designing his kitchen remodel.


LOL
Exactly. He’s more worried about that chicken cordon Bleau and LDT’s play slipped when he became a doctor! Time to get some guys that are hungry and put football first!!


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