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SupDock

10-11-2021 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15888258)

Yes. And it forced him to stay in the pocket and go through his reads more mechanically. He was the most robotic he's ever been during that time period, and he absolutely CARVED defenses up underneath.

He still ran, but much more selectively.

Last night Patrick had clean pockets at times and was throwing off platform anyway.

He has waffled this year between staying in the pocket and just running out for no reason again. For some reason this bad habit keeps coming back.

I think drops, fumbles, playing from behind, and PTSD are contributing

seamonster

10-11-2021 02:48 PM

I think the Chiefs just need to fix the run. Without the play action Mahomes has to fit the ball into some tight spots in between safeties and linebackers or dink and dunk. If a team has trash safeties (Washington) this isn't a problem. When they're playing a Buffalo or Denver this becomes a concern.

Raiderhater

10-11-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15888117)

Traditionally, there's usually space in the seams for TEs to work the middle because the safeties are in that 2 shell.

You'd think Reid and EB would've tried to exploit that more with Kelce...

I’m not saying this is wrong and that what I am about to say is a full explanation but, how many times do we see defenders take Kelce out of the play by holding him and not getting flagged for it?

rabblerouser

10-11-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15888224)

The issue against Buffalo is they kept the safeties deep the same as AFC Championship game but squeezed our passing options for the RPO.

Nice counter and told Edmunds to stop hunting the RB but just stay still.

We then had no counter to that but idiotic attacks to the side of the field.

Middle of the field still wide open against Buffalo...we just needed to get a few yards deeper.

Accurate.

rabblerouser

10-11-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 15888386)

I’m not saying this is wrong and that what I am about to say is a full explanation but, how many times do we see defenders take Kelce out of the play by holding him and not getting flagged for it?

Also accurate.

Hammock Parties

10-11-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 15888278)

It's always about blocking vs Cover 2.

You have to either block long enough to let the routes develop, or you have to smash them with the run.

We're hit or miss on that right now with the new OL. And Mahomes missing receivers, them dropping balls, doesn't help.

This isn't a coaching problem.

Hammock Parties

10-11-2021 03:59 PM

Run the ball. And not just out of shotgun.

Line up and destroy souls. We have the personnel to do it.

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BryanBusby

10-11-2021 04:01 PM

They do? Sure didn't look like it last night.

Hammock Parties

10-11-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15888442)

They do? Sure didn't look like it last night.

Buffalo's DTs are nasty. They gave them a lot of issues.

They still want to run out of shotgun too much.

They need some good old-fashioned Power O plays against these fronts.

BryanBusby

10-11-2021 04:32 PM

I don't think this squad is capable of getting up there and just smash mouthing it for many yards.

Hammock Parties

10-11-2021 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15888513)

I don't think this squad is capable of getting up there and just smash mouthing it for many yards.

The OL absolutely is.

Gary Cooper

10-11-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15888513)

I don't think this squad is capable of getting up there and just smash mouthing it for many yards.

They don't try honestly. Too much misdirection and running out of shotgun. They put together a new line full of run blockers. They still have a fullback on the roster. Other teams with passing attacks run the ball behind the center.

Hammock Parties

10-11-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 15888528)

They don't try honestly. Too much misdirection and running out of shotgun.

I'd love to see us go full on Marty for a series.

Give these m'fers something else to think about besides Tyreek and Kelce.

MahomesMagic

10-11-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15888415)

Accurate.

It was eerily similar to our loss in Baltimore where Baltimore and Buffalo coaches both adjusted a bit more to defend KC (nothing crazy but squeezing the RPO windows for Buffalo and Baltimore with layered pass-rush etc).

And Spags had perfect gameplan against Lamar which they then tinkered with back and we didn't adjust.

Spags against Buffalo didn't use ANYTHING that worked last year against Allen in the 1st half. Kept showing Allen our cards and leaving Sorenson alone deep...plus no pressure.

We are still contenders but not favorites anymore. Just a wounded animal that other team's best knock off soon because they won't want to see us in the playoffs.

Hammock Parties

10-11-2021 05:18 PM

Part of the issue for Spags now is he doesn't know WHAT to do. Because nothing they do WORKS.

They have a severely shitty front seven. And without Jones, maybe the worst in the league.

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