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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15892764)

Things would look much different without all the turnovers on offense. Correct me if I'm wrong but 2019 our SB win year, our defense sucked balls through game 8 and then they put it all together and had the #1 defense the second half of the season thru the SB.

I don't think it would look different at all wout TOs.. This D is simply bad

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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 15891837)

I think the hardest thing to swallow about what is happening with the defense is that it is so mind boggling that they are this ****ing bad.

They are basically the same unit as last year. Who did we lose? Wilson? Tonah? That isn't changing much imo.

So that leaves Sorenson in a starting safety role and physically declining and moving CJ to the outside. Spags must have implemented something new that the defense is too confused because they are always lost constantly you can tell pre snap. All this could be fixed, at least partially or improved.

I'll give you my conspiracy take...and really it's just a pragmatic observation based on ratings/parity. It's the 2021 season narrative building...

I said before the season started that KC's first 5 games were a head scratcher. It made no scheduling sense from a marketing perspective. That these games would have more meaning later in the season. If KC were to go 5-0, they would have essentially wiped out any drama for the next 4 months.

They would have tie-breakers over every top AFC team. KC going 14-1 and resting their starters, last year, is bad for business...especially since there is only one bye. This is now a 17 game season...

Their first 5 games were twice the toughest slate compared to the next closest team...TWICE. Two times as hard as the #2 toughest starting schedule...does this seem disproportionate?

For that extra 17th game, Chiefs get to play the Packers...one of the 4 best NFL teams from last year.

There have been 3 crucial calls that have shifted the outcomes of the 3 losses. The 4th and 9 against LA really stands out.

I think this "worst defense in history" start is scripted...and Spags is playing ball. It's a "top-down" decision...and he's doing what he's told. This team has never looked THIS disorganized...they've been to 3 consecutive AFCCGs. They didn't lose any consequential players on defense and it the same scheme.

This same defense held the 5-0 Arizona starters to 5 consecutive 3 and outs in the preseason. There were no signs of a complete schematic melt-down prior to game one.

I'm keeping an eye on if this defense "magically" turns it around in the next few weeks..

The season beginning is a NFL dream start...every AFC team has a shot/hope now the Chiefs are bottom-feeders.

It's all making out for a 'Dramatic Race" to end the season...no resting your starters this year.

I think the NFL has officially gone into shameless WWF mode...

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15892778)

I don't think it would look different at all wout TOs.. This D is simply bad

It’s correctable, though.
First off, gotta find a way to motivate Tyrann. He’s the leader of a currently leaderless defense.
Get Ward back at CB.
Get Wharton on the field more than Reed.
Get Thornhills speed on the field on the back end
Get Gays speed and playmaking ability on the field in the middle of the defense.
Let Jones hand heal and let him grow as a DE. He may not be effective till December.

As long as the defense improves in these ways and the offense stops handing the ball to other teams on what used to be seen as fluke plays, but are starting to become normal…this team will resume dominating.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15892114)

I'd get rid of Hitchens, Clark, Sorensen and Nieman.

Replace them with solid starters and things start to look a lot better.

I still really like our corner group and DTs. DE, LB and one S position have to be addressed.

"think this "worst defense in history" start is scripted...and soon to move on HC Spags is playing ball. It's a "top-down" decision...and he's doing what he's told. This team has never looked THIS disorganized...they've been to 3 consecutive AFCCGs. They didn't lose any consequential players on defense and it the same scheme."

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 15893003)

"I don't know really who to blame" is the standout comment from Simms. That is everything - terrible coaching, and a woeful lack of talent and commitment from players. There is no way this defence gets back to good enough this year. You have to think it can and will improve, a lot, but the whole package isn't going to work. We need better players and better coaching - maybe that can partly come with personnel decisions and from this coaching group, but I'm less and less convinced it's enough.

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 15893003)

That other guy says "wow..that's weird"...no...it's really not.

Just kind of verified what I just posted...get back to me in 5 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 15893010)

Don't be dissing Damien Wilson like that. He was always making key tackles. Now they have a bunch Ole tacklers

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15892998)

Yes. This is what has happened. Now we witness our dramatic rise.

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 15893003)

Hitchens, to me, is arguably the worst player on the field after Sorensen in terms of taking himself out of plays that ends up costing the team. His downhill run fill is atrocious. His pass coverage is worse. I ****ing despise Hitchens being on this team and have for a while.

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 15893003)

This should be required to be watched by everyone on here.