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notorious 10-25-2021 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15914284)
Sure, but Clark and Mathieus locker room issues won't just go away. I don't know if Reid will snap out of this until he gets closure on Britt. We should try to keep winning but I just think there are locker room issues that can be easily fixed but realistically not this year.

With proper leadership it's absolutely doable.

Foot needs to be applied to ass. We'll see if our leadership has the balls to make hard calls. They haven't really so far.

007 10-25-2021 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15914129)
I'll panic if we don't make the playoffs.


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chiefzilla1501 10-25-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15914277)
In other words Veach has been doing a shit job and Andy doesn't know how to prepare a team to come out ready. Team comes out flat. We have seen that over and over again.

Of maybe all the stars aligned in the wrong direction and we are having an off year. I get that Reid isn't a perfect coach. But cmon, we all know this is very very uncharacteristic of an Andy Reid team. Just because he's a nice guy doesn't mean his team is unprepared. He has a stellar record in September, after bye weeks, in the final weeks of the season. That's a testament to how damn good Reid is at preparing his team. We haven't seen this over and over again. This is very unusual for Reid.

chiefzilla1501 10-25-2021 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15914286)
With proper leadership it's absolutely doable.

Foot needs to be applied to ass. We'll see if our leadership has the balls to make hard calls. They haven't really so far.

But that starts with Andy Reid and most people wonder if he's really himself these days. Mathieu is a key voice in the locker room and I doubt he changes his attitude unless he gets a new contract. And as long as the defense keeps doing this, you're asking a lot of the offense to overcome all this.

The best hope is that spags pulls his head out of his ass or he gets replaced. Because the other piece is the defense looks like they have no faith in the scheme. I just feel like those locker room issues above are tough to overcome.

notorious 10-25-2021 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15914302)
But that starts with Andy Reid and most people wonder if he's really himself these days. Mathieu is a key voice in the locker room and I doubt he changes his attitude unless he gets a new contract. And as long as the defense keeps doing this, you're asking a lot of the offense to overcome all this.

The best hope is that spags pulls his head out of his ass or he gets replaced. Because the other piece is the defense looks like they have no faith in the scheme. I just feel like those locker room issues above are tough to overcome.

It's going to take a change with the guys already there. We know nobody is getting cut or fired (even though that's what the Pats would do and was a big reason they lasted so long).

chiefzilla1501 10-25-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15914307)
It's going to take a change with the guys already there. We know nobody is getting cut or fired (even though that's what the Pats would do and was a big reason they lasted so long).

Hope so. The good news is there's lots of room for optimism that the locker room culture improves dramatically next year. Clark is as good as gone. Mathieu is either gone or content with a new contract. Hopefully closure over Britt Reid happens quickly much as Andy I'm sure wants to put this off.

It's either one of those magical turnaround seasons where we climb from adversity. We've seen it before. Bradys done it twice after the Chiefs humiliated him in NE and Tampa. It just feels like the Murphys law season we just need to get over. Maybe just get all this bad juju out of our system.

Danguardace 10-25-2021 05:18 PM

We won a superbowl 2 years ago if we suck this year WGAF! This team not even close to being the most sorry Chiefs i have seen.

crayzkirk 10-25-2021 05:18 PM

Fact: If the Chiefs can develop a credible run game, things will open back up.

Dayze 10-25-2021 05:21 PM

of the list of problems...Patrick is the least of my worries. Not concerned at all because he probably wouldn't be pressing as much if literally every other phase/group on the team would pull their weight at an average performance level.

media just stirring up shit like they always do.

I'd be more concerned (if I were a media slob writing a piece) about Hughes and Reed standing by watching Henry run by them; and Jones for that matter.
That doesn't speak to lack of talent....that speaks to lack of effort and 'want to'.

that shit spreads like a disease on a team.

ToxSocks 10-25-2021 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15914317)
Fact: If the Chiefs can develop a credible run game, things will open back up.

The Chiefs aren't going to keep running the ball if they go down 3 scores. Which is what happened yesterday.

Everyone thinking there's this one-thing the Chiefs have to do to fix everything is just...not accurate.

They're failing in all phases of the game at different times of the game. Right now, they have nothing that works consistently every single week.

notorious 10-25-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15914317)
Fact: If the Chiefs can develop a credible run game, things will open back up.

I think it's tied to the quick, short passing game.

I don't want to suck off Brady too much, but the short game is a huge reason they guy is still producing at a high level.

Brody Wa 10-25-2021 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15914124)
Fact: Brett Veach is a moron

Fiction: Brett Veach is responsible for Patrick Mahomes

Fact: John Dorsey would be an immediate upgrade over Brett Veach

Fiction: Brett Veach is responsible for us winning the Super Bowl

Fact: John Dorsey is more responsible for the Super Bowl victory than Brett Veach

Fiction: This team will win another Super Bowl with Brett Veach as GM

Fact: We wouldn’t have a SB without Brett Veach
Fact: We wouldn’t have Patrick Mahomes without Brett Veach
Fact: You’re talking out of the side of your ass

comochiefsfan 10-25-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brody Wa (Post 15914332)
Fact: We wouldn’t have a SB without Brett Veach
Fact: We wouldn’t have Patrick Mahomes without Brett Veac
Fact: You’re talking out of the side of your ass

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Please tell me you don't believe this nonsense.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2021 05:34 PM

If we lose to NYG...Yes

notorious 10-25-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15914340)
If we lose to NYG...Yes

When we lost to them in 17' I mentally checked out.

It was a full wind-up kick to the balls.


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