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TomBarndtsTwin 01-30-2022 10:11 PM

Who cares?

Chiefs were up 21-3 and should have been up either 24-10 or 28-10 going into the half and then proceeded to shit down their leg in epic fashion.

It was like they were channeling the Atlanta Falcons from the Super Bowl a few years back. Just awful. They deserved to lose regardless of some stupid fumble/non-fumble on a technicality.

They blew it. End of story.

ku_jhawk23 01-30-2022 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 16120866)
He pretty obviously gave himself up. He got up, dumped the ball and started celebrating. If ever a runner has "given themselves up", it would have to be here. Not a fumble.

He was tripped up and fell to the ground, then jumped up assuming he'd been tackled. Where in the **** does giving himself up fall into that? Thinking you got tackled and then celebrating is not giving yourself up. Giving yourself up must be voluntary with no outside contact and in the normal field of play. That wasn't this. If he were touched by the Chiefs defender, it counts as down. That is unclear, which is why I said it wouldn't be overturned, but he DEFINITELY did not give himself up under any definition of the rule.

ljmhawk 01-30-2022 10:15 PM

so stumbling down….STUMBLING….not sliding or diving is considered giving yourself up?

HonestChieffan 01-30-2022 10:18 PM

no matter, we blew it.

Played 1/2 of a 2 half game

ku_jhawk23 01-30-2022 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 16120895)
no matter, we blew it.

Played 1/2 of a 2 half game

I absolutely agree with this. We screwed ourselves, but the reffing in this game was very below par, on both sides.

Rain Man 01-30-2022 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16120834)
Lol. How do I get notifications when people reply to me? Sorry I’m new

No one has replied to you yet.

Wait, one person has.

ClevelandBronco 01-30-2022 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16120834)
Lol. How do I get notifications when people reply to me? Sorry I’m new

Usually people will just call you an idiot.

Rain Man 01-30-2022 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16120834)
Lol. How do I get notifications when people reply to me? Sorry I’m new

It's two now. No, three.

BryanBusby 01-30-2022 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 16120931)
Usually people will just call you an idiot.

I heard it was best to PM Bobdole?

TambaBerry 01-30-2022 10:51 PM

I'm more mad about Hardman getting an obvious late hit out of bounds

Fishels 01-30-2022 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16120927)
No one has replied to you yet.

Wait, one person has.

I know you guys are joking around but I don’t see a little bubble indicating someone has quoted me like on other forums

Rain Man 01-30-2022 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16120964)
I know you guys are joking around but I don’t see a little bubble indicating someone has quoted me like on other forums

I don't think we have such things here. We just show up a lot.

HMc 01-30-2022 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ku_jhawk23 (Post 16120880)
He was tripped up and fell to the ground, then jumped up assuming he'd been tackled. Where in the **** does giving himself up fall into that? Thinking you got tackled and then celebrating is not giving yourself up. Giving yourself up must be voluntary with no outside contact and in the normal field of play. That wasn't this. If he were touched by the Chiefs defender, it counts as down. That is unclear, which is why I said it wouldn't be overturned, but he DEFINITELY did not give himself up under any definition of the rule.

The official rulebook says none of what you think is included. Im not even sure of what the "normal field of play" would be, if this wasnt it.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...wn-by-contact/

An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

when a runner declares himself down by:
falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance.

He fell to the ground. He clearly made no immediate effort to advance, given he got up and tossed the ball in order to celebrate.

He was on the ground. He was either down by contact, or he was down by virtue of his "clearly making no immediate effort to advance."

Either way, he was down.

emaw1979 01-30-2022 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 16120982)
The official rulebook says none of what you think is included. Im not even sure of what the "normal field of play" would be, if this wasnt it.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...wn-by-contact/

An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

when a runner declares himself down by:
falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance.

He fell to the ground. He clearly made no immediate effort to advance, given he got up and tossed the ball in order to celebrate.

He was on the ground. He was either down by contact, or he was down by virtue of his "clearly making no immediate effort to advance."

Either way, he was down.

Any other game outside of the playoffs that's a fumble. I have no problem with them not calling it a fumble because they have been trying not to make controversial calls during the postseason.

That was plaxico burress 2.0 level fumble.

Megatron96 01-31-2022 12:04 AM

I think he fumbled. 70 CIN bumps into him which causes him to lose his balance and trip, and when he goes down 84 CIN falls over the top of him, and no Chief actually touches him up to that point. Then he gets up and throws the ball down. That should be a live ball.


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