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DJ's left nut

03-17-2022 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16198354)

Just ****ing sign him. Dude isn't dropping off.

If there's a good gamble to be made in this regard, it's absolutely Tyreek Hill.

The guy is just a unicorn.

I mean if the answer ends up being "We're paying Mahomes, Hill and Kelce until they can't do it anymore and in the meantime everyone else is pretty much expendable..." I'd understand the approach.

The risk would terrify me and the 'brave new world' of $28 million WRs is not one I'm accustomed to. But if anyone's worth gambling on there, the guy who simply moves in ways human beings do not move is probably the one spin the wheel with.

Titty Meat

03-17-2022 10:11 PM

You absolutely extend Hill he's a generational talent

ForeverIowan

03-17-2022 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198353)

It's damn rare that a skill position player on his 2nd contract works out.

If we do nothing at all, Tyreek Hill will have made $60 million from this organization before his 29th birthday. We've already paid our homegrown player.

The question is whether we want to pay him again. And if there's any possibility you're paying him for what he's done rather than what he'll do, the answer is no.

It's not as simple as you're making it. The Chiefs have set Hill up for life - any 'moral dilemma' has since been resolved. He's a wealthy man and Clark Hunt signed every last one of those checks.

So now the question becomes if you think you'll get commensurate value for the checks he wants you to write him going forward. If that answer is no, then you don't continue to write them. Especially if part of that calculus is what you lose in terms of picks and cap capital by paying him instead of trading him.

Nobody's talking out of both sides of their mouth here. Nobody in this organization has been done wrong by the Chiefs.

But hard decisions oftentimes must be made.

JFC man outside of quarterbacks you can make a genuine argument he is a top 5 player in the game. He was just ranked inside the top ten of NFL top 100. You dont let players like that walk. He is 28 not 33. Pristine shape for a 28 year old I might add. Zero significant injury history that would impact his longevity.

You give the best wide receiver in the history of your franchise the benefit of the doubt if the decision isnt crystal clear one way or the other. Period. Go to battle with your guys

Brody Wa

03-17-2022 10:20 PM

When Tyreek retires he’ll be right up there with Jerry Rice and Randy Moss. I want him to go to the HOF as a CHIEF.

OKchiefs

03-17-2022 10:24 PM

Might get grief for saying this, but until proven otherwise I don't have a lot of faith in Veach to adequately find offensive skill positions, seeing as how so far he's added a gadget #3 WR in the 2nd round and an undersized subpar RB in the first round.

Trading Tyreek when the chances of anyone coming close to filling the massive hole he'd leave behind would be insane. The depth at WR is already nonexistent WITH Tyreek, trade him and it gets even worse.

Couch-Potato

03-17-2022 10:24 PM

I want to keep him forever and give him a special preference for having a unique ability and impact on the game far and above his annual yardage numbers, but I'm actually surprised he and Adams numbers don't hold up as well against say Michael Thomas or Julio Jones career stats.

ForeverIowan

03-17-2022 10:32 PM

Would not surprise me whatsoever if Tyreek is playing at an extremely high level well into his mid 30s. Guy is a physical freak. If he loses a step or two he will run a 4.3 or 4.4 instead of a 4.2. He makes up for that with experience and unparalleled trust and chemistry with Mahomes.

Rain Man

03-17-2022 10:32 PM

I agree with pretty much everyone else. He changes how defenses have to play us, so his impact goes beyond his stats.

I'm not sure any other non-quarterback in the league dominates defensive game planning as much as Tyreek.

saturnknts

03-17-2022 10:34 PM

The silence on an extension for Hill worries me. He wouldn't restructure last year to give the team some more cap room. Is he playing to be a free agent and get paid like Adam's?

DJ's left nut

03-17-2022 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16198386)

That 6-year stretch where Julio average about 110 catches for 1,550 yards/season man...I mean - good lord.

Julio's best 6 years: 2014-19, 92 games, 623 receptions, 9388 yards

Megatron's best 6: 2010-2015, 90 games, 538 receptions, 8548 yards

Moss's best 6 year run: 1998-2003, 96 games, 525 receptions, 8375 yards

Rice: 1990-1995, 96 games, 596 receptions, 8759 yards

Marvin Harrison: 1999-2004, 95 games, 649 receptions, 8707 yards

I don't think receiver in NFL history has had a span as thoroughly dominant as Julio did at his apex. No, Tyreek Hill doesn't stand up to Julio Jones because good lord, who does?

It's just a completely absurd run. Truly amazing players like Randy Moss have 1st ballot HOF careers and break 1,500 yards in a season once. Over a 6 year stretch Julio Jones averaged that many. It's just unheard of.

Fishels

03-17-2022 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16198248)

I hope Tyreek plays for KC until he retires

same goes for Kelce and Mahomes

They are all time greats and I hope they spend their entire careers here in KC

Exactly this. But if Mahomes is still great at 43 he can go to another team. Just not the Raiders.

BossChief

03-17-2022 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198304)

I'd just quit my job and see if the Jags are hiring.

Man I want absolutely no part of having to make that decision. With Jones I was truly ambivalent - I just didn't care. I could flip a coin and either approach left me satisfied.

With Hill it's the exact opposite - I actively hate having to make that decision. Flip a coin and however it lands I'm just going to be pissed.

So yeah - I quit. I'm going to get a gig on Monday Night Football saying stupid shit on the sidelines.

It’s tough.

In one hand, you have a HOF WR in his prime that has done every single thing right since you drafted him. He has great chemistry with the team and is invaluable in many ways past the stat sheet.

In the other hand, getting a first and second round pick AND 28 million in cap space (minus the cost of cap space to the rookie contracts) to go sign someone else would also give the team enough resources to improve massively, as well.

Bump	03-17-2022 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16198447)

losing Tyreek wouldn't improve the team in any way unless you absolutely hit home runs and draft 2 hall of fame players with those picks. Pretty unlikely.

Wilson8

03-17-2022 11:43 PM

I would keep Tyreek Hill if you can.

It was very telling that the Green Bay Packers offered the same contract money to Adams.

The Packers knew what they had in Adams and wanted to keep him rather than take the 1st and 2nd round draft picks.

I started to bring in a list of all of the failed WRs that have been drafted lately but did not want to make your eyeballs roll into the back of your head.

Packers could not work out a contract that worked but if we can keep Tyreek Hill, we should.

1. First try to work out contract.
2. Tag him next year if needed.
3. Lastly, If Tyreek does not want to stay, work out trade.

BossChief

03-17-2022 11:43 PM

I have a feeling a deal gets done in the next 48 hours now that Adams is signed. Veach and Tyreeks reps have been intensely talking for weeks. This number won’t be a surprise, just clarification.

Make it a 5 year extension with trapdoors and cookie jars, though.

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