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Calvin Austin is insanely agile and thus intriguing as a gadget player. Just not sure he fits in with this current version of the team.

He'd have to take Hardman's snaps and i don't see that happening.

This is all great, thanks for doing this The Franchise.

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16237075)

Top 20 WRs

1. GARRETT WILSON Ohio State 1st JR. 5116 183 4.38 (1.53) 32 9 7/8 76 1/2 21.77
2. JAMESON WILLIAMS Alabama 1st JR. 6014 179 DNP (DNP) 32 1/8 9 1/4 75 7/8 21.09
3. DRAKE LONDON USC 1st JR. 6037 219 DNP (DNP) 33 9 3/8 77 3/4 20.76
4. CHRIS OLAVE Ohio State 1st SR. 6003 187 4.39 (1.45) 31 1/8 9 1/2 73 1/8 21.84
5. TREYLON BURKS Arkansas 1st JR. 6020 225 4.55 (1.57) 33 1/2 9 7/8 79 1/8 22.10
6. JAHAN DOTSON Penn State 1st-2nd SR. 5105 178 4.43 (1.56) 30 3/4 9 1/2 74 22.10
7. SKYY MOORE Western Michigan 2nd JR. 5095 195 4.41 (1.46) 31 10 1/4 73 5/8 21.63
8. GEORGE PICKENS Georgia 2nd JR. 6032 195 4.47 (1.50) 32 3/8 8 3/4 77 3/8 21.15
9. JALEN TOLBERT South Alabama 2nd-3rd rSR. 6011 194 4.49 (1.49) 32 1/4 10 76 3/8 23.17
10. CHRISTIAN WATSON North Dakota State 2nd-3rd rSR. 6041 208 4.36 (1.45) 32 1/2 10 1/8 77 5/8 22.96
11. JOHN METCHIE III Alabama 3rd JR. 5112 187 DNP (DNP) 30 5/8 9 1/4 73 3/8 21.78
12. ALEC PIERCE Cincinnati 3rd SR. 6031 211 4.41 (1.46) 33 9 78 1/2 21.99
13. DAVID BELL Purdue 3rd JR. 6007 212 4.65 (1.56) 31 7/8 9 1/4 76 5/8 21.37
14. WAN’DALE ROBINSON Kentucky 3rd-4th JR. 5080 178 4.44 (1.49) 27 5/8 9 67 5/8 21.31
15. CALVIN AUSTIN III Memphis 3rd-4th rSR. 5076 170 4.32 (1.44) 30 9 1/4 73 23.09
16. KHALIL SHAKIR Boise State 4th SR. 5117 196 4.43 (1.49) 29 9 1/2 70 3/8 22.24
17. DANNY GRAY SMU 4th SR. 5117 186 4.33 (1.51) 31 7/8 9 5/8 76 7/8 23.08
18. KYLE PHILIPS UCLA 4th rJR. 5112 189 4.58 (1.49) 29 5/8 8 5/8 71 22.86
19. JUSTYN ROSS Clemson 4th-5th rJR. 6035 205 4.63 (1.76) 32 1/8 9 5/8 77 7/8 22.37
20. BO MELTON Rutgers 4th-5th rSR. 5110 189 4.34 (1.47) 31 1/4 9 76 1/2 22.94

Top 20 EDGE

1. AIDAN HUTCHINSON Michigan 1st SR. 6065 260 4.74 (1.61) 32 1/8 10 1/4 78 1/8 21.72
2. TRAVON WALKER Georgia 1st JR. 6050 272 4.51 (1.54) 35 1/2 10 3/4 84 1/4 21.36
3. KAYVON THIBODEAUX Oregon 1st JR. 6040 254 4.58 (1.56) 33 1/8 9 3/4 79 1/2 21.37
4. JERMAINE JOHNSON Florida State 1st rSR. 6045 254 4.58 (1.59) 34 9 7/8 81 5/8 23.31
5. GEORGE KARLAFTIS Purdue 1st JR. 6036 266 4.77 (1.65) 32 5/8 10 1/4 78 7/8 21.07
6. ARNOLD EBIKETIE Penn State 1st-2nd rSR. 6023 250 4.65 (1.69) 34 1/8 10 1/4 81 3/4 23.26
7. LOGAN HALL Houston 1st-2nd SR. 6061 283 4.88 (1.67) 32 3/4 9 5/8 79 1/8 22.02
8. DAVID OJABO Michigan 2nd rSO. 6040 250 4.55 (1.59) 33 1/2 9 80 3/4 21.95
9. BOYE MAFE Minnesota 2nd rSR. 6036 261 4.53 (1.56) 32 5/8 9 7/8 80 3/4 23.41
10. DRAKE JACKSON USC 2nd-3rd JR. 6030 273 DNP (DNP) 34 10 1/8 82 5/8 21.04
11. NIK BONITTO Oklahoma 2nd-3rd rJR. 6030 248 4.54 (1.53) 32 1/2 9 3/8 78 3/4 22.59
12. KINGSLEY ENAGBARE South Carolina 2nd-3rd SR. 6036 258 4.87 (1.67) 34 3/4 10 5/8 83 22.28
13. DOMINIQUE ROBINSON Miami (Ohio) 3rd rSR. 6047 253 4.72 (1.61) 33 1/4 9 3/4 81 7/8 23.82
14. DEANGELO MALONE Western Kentucky 3rd rSR. 6032 243 4.54 (1.60) 33 1/8 9 7/8 79 3/8 22.79
15. JOSH PASCHAL Kentucky 3rd rSR. 6025 268 4.77 (1.57) 32 3/4 9 5/8 79 22.36
16. CAMERON THOMAS San Diego State 3rd rJR. 6041 267 DNP (DNP) 32 1/2 10 1/4 78 7/8 22.31
17. SAM WILLIAMS Ole Miss 3rd rSR. 6035 261 4.46 (1.52) 33 1/8 9 7/8 80 1/4 23.08
18. ALEX WRIGHT UAB 3rd JR. 6051 271 DNP (DNP) 34 9 1/4 82 7/8 21.65
19. MYJAI SANDERS Cincinnati 3rd-4th SR. 6052 247 4.67 (1.57) 32 5/8 9 1/4 79 7/8 23.79
20. AMARE BARNO Virginia Tech 4th rSR. 6045 246 4.36 (1.49) 34 9 80 5/8 23.01

It feels like CP is generally much higher on Cameron Thomas and Sam Williams than most of the analysts and pundits. Not sure if that's partly because people see them as more typical Spags DEs. I get that but I like Ebikitie and Bonitto and think they could work perfectly well - maybe not ideal fits but overall more rounded players imo. I don't really hear many people mentioning Hall.

I’ve been trying to tell everybody for weeks that we are higher than Thomas and Williams than most.

And I think that’s a good thing for us.

Obajo 8th? Thomas 16? **** this guy

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16237104)

Thanks. Figured Cook might be a guy that would need to be the pick at 64 in order to get him. Lance Zierlein is high on him too, relatively speaking. I like the kid a lot. I think he's what's missing in the secondary. The Chiefs have nobody physical or that's a tone-setter really. Nobody that will come up and stick a running QB or lay out a WR coming across the middle and make them think twice the next time. I like the versatile guys, but I feel like you gotta have the yin to the yang.

I've been dying for somebody like that back there - a Kam Chancellor or Ryan Clark type!

Interesting rankings. I agree with most of it although a few players are ranked too low for my liking. I don't think Ebiketie should be higher than Ojabo. He is not as explosive a pass rusher and is an even worse run defender than Ojabo.

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 16237249)

I've been dying for somebody like that back there - a Kam Chancellor or Ryan Clark type!

Yep and he'd be a little bit in between them I think. He's not lacking versatility because he played everywhere on the back end in college. That said, his best stuff seems to be down in the box as a SS. I've been trying to work on my what i want mock for this year with an effort for it not to suck this go around, lol, and I keep coming back to this kid.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16237215)

I’ve been trying to tell everybody for weeks that we are higher than Thomas and Williams than most.

And I think that’s a good thing for us.

Man. If we can wait till the third to draft a pass rushers snd get 2 good ones in the third, that goes a long way towards fixing this defense with limited resources.

First 4 picks can go WR and secondary…which also seems to be the sweet spots.

Jahan Dotson:

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16223227)

I mean, would you take Diontae Johnson with much better hands?

I think that’s his ceiling, which is still pretty damn good.

This is from The Beast:

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He is an NFL starter in the Diontae Johnson mold with better hands and punt-return skills.

LMAO

Absolutely spot on.

Franchise:

What's Brugler's take on Smoke Monday, S Auburn?

He has Logan Hall as an EDGE? I thought he was an interior DL. What’s he write about him?

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16237452)

He has Logan Hall as an EDGE? I thought he was an interior DL. What’s he write about him?

He wrote him as an edge based on his build iirc

Would be interesting to see his Safety and CB rankings if you get a chance, thanks.

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16237315)

I think there's a chance you get him in the 3rd and that's where I'd probably want to pick him. I like him too though, and I think there's the potential for him to be more than a thumper. He looks like he has decent athleticism and range and any patchy coverage is more about angles than a lack of dynamism.

As an aside, but did I read from further up that he put on 40 pounds? It always absolutely blows my mind how much good weight DBs can pack on at that age and it doesn't negatively impact their speed. I mean, I could probably pack on 40 pounds these days but I'm not sure it looks the same.