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duncan_idaho 04-14-2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 16246047)
This is pretty much my "board" if I were to have one. I have no scouting talent but from the research I've done and opinions I've read, along with watching highlights I think this is about perfect. I'd probably rank Pickens above Watson just based on competition faced.

I like Pickens and Watson fairly equally. Both have some questions marks.

Neither one has incredible college production after being at incredibly run-dominated college programs.

Pickens has had some injury and maturity issues. Watson has competition/level of plays and drops questions.

Pickens is more mature as a route-runner, though he's not Olave or Dotson or Garrett Wilson, the real route technicians at the top of this group. He has better hands and has shown the ability to track the ball deep better, and is a "snatchier" receiver.

Watson is visibly more explosive and elusive with the ball in his hands (even accounting for the difference in competition levels).

I really don't see a clear separator. They both block like maniacs, which is nice. Pair either one with Smith-Schuster and Valdes-Scantling, and you've got an incredibly effective blocking trio of WR. YAC galore for guys who catch the ball... or for the run game.

Chiefsph31 04-16-2022 09:11 PM

In terms of fit, I see Jameson Williams, hands down #1. But can we trade up to get him?
And here's an idea that may ruffle some feathers. How about at 50 we get Wan Dale Robinson and at 62 we get Calvin Austin. Robinson and Austin together would be electric. I can see the ESPN highlights already!!!

Stryker 04-16-2022 09:29 PM

i would be happy if we somehow got both Watson and Pierce without having to move up to get them. Final answer.

Stryker 04-16-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefsph31 (Post 16249369)
In terms of fit, I see Jameson Williams, hands down #1. But can we trade up to get him?
And here's an idea that may ruffle some feathers. How about at 50 we get Wan Dale Robinson and at 62 we get Calvin Austin. Robinson and Austin together would be electric. I can see the ESPN highlights already!!!

Defense needs too much attention to sell the future to move up to get him. My hope is that we can get the best of both worlds leaning more towards the defense with a sprinkle of offense.

MahomesMagic 04-17-2022 02:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Talking to team sources about their draft boards, it seems like there are 5 WR&#39;s with first round grades. That&#39;s Williams, Wilson, Burks, Olave, and London. They may all be gone by the 20&#39;s.&quot; -- <a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PSchrags</a> <a href="https://t.co/IakaUFDc0x">pic.twitter.com/IakaUFDc0x</a></p>&mdash; Good Morning Football (@gmfb) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/1513514705914109958?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xztop123 04-17-2022 03:01 PM

You guys are basically just giving the typical rankings of them. Maybe you’re pushing London down because he’s not a very wco style wr

TambaBerry 04-17-2022 03:35 PM

I don't like that London is refusing to run a 40

bigjosh 04-17-2022 03:38 PM

I have a feeling pickens is towards the top if we are going based on what our past offense had lookes like.

Olave
Williams
Pickens
Moore
Wilson
Metchie
Dotson
Burks
London

staylor26 04-17-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 16250149)
You guys are basically just giving the typical rankings of them. Maybe you’re pushing London down because he’s not a very wco style wr

Because it’s tough to know what they’re looking for. On one hand, it seems like they want bigger WRs, but on the other, they might be looking for a guy to replace Tyreek.

staylor26 04-17-2022 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16250127)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Talking to team sources about their draft boards, it seems like there are 5 WR&#39;s with first round grades. That&#39;s Williams, Wilson, Burks, Olave, and London. They may all be gone by the 20&#39;s.&quot; -- <a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PSchrags</a> <a href="https://t.co/IakaUFDc0x">pic.twitter.com/IakaUFDc0x</a></p>&mdash; Good Morning Football (@gmfb) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/1513514705914109958?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’s fine. If that happens, somebody else will fall at a different position.

Chris Meck 04-17-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16246242)
I like Pickens and Watson fairly equally. Both have some questions marks.

Neither one has incredible college production after being at incredibly run-dominated college programs.

Pickens has had some injury and maturity issues. Watson has competition/level of plays and drops questions.

Pickens is more mature as a route-runner, though he's not Olave or Dotson or Garrett Wilson, the real route technicians at the top of this group. He has better hands and has shown the ability to track the ball deep better, and is a "snatchier" receiver.

Watson is visibly more explosive and elusive with the ball in his hands (even accounting for the difference in competition levels).

I really don't see a clear separator. They both block like maniacs, which is nice. Pair either one with Smith-Schuster and Valdes-Scantling, and you've got an incredibly effective blocking trio of WR. YAC galore for guys who catch the ball... or for the run game.

See, I like them both, and would take either or both in round two; but the deep ball tracking is something that we will miss from Hill; it's honestly the biggest thing that Hardman can't give you that Hill did. I like 'em both; but I lean Pickens.

BUT with the injury history...man, it's close.

I like Pierce just about as much, too, so there's that.

FRCDFED 04-17-2022 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16250159)
I have a feeling pickens is towards the top if we are going based on what our past offense had lookes like.

Olave
Williams
Pickens
Moore
Wilson
Metchie
Dotson
Burks
London

I'd agree with your sentiment regarding Pickens. I would've ranked the WR similar at the top but would've had them differently at the bottom. I also believe the Chiefs are high on Pickens though.

kcbubb 04-17-2022 11:50 PM

Pickens is not in the same league as Watson for me. His speed, burst and acceleration are crazy. Pickens is lanky and his change of direction is more like a baby deer when compared to Watson. Watson is also electric with the ball in his hands. He’s a real burner.

I’ve been wondering about the competition issue but simms isn’t concerned in the video below. He’s wrong about the mike evans, claypool and Dk comparison because those guys are much thicker, bigger wrs. But I agree with how crazy Watsons speed is. Take a look at simms top 5 wr rankings.

https://youtu.be/iUD6NldZBO8

emaw1979 04-18-2022 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16250463)
Pickens is not in the same league as Watson for me. His speed, burst and acceleration are crazy. Pickens is lanky and his change of direction is more like a baby deer when compared to Watson. Watson is also electric with the ball in his hands. He’s a real burner.

I’ve been wondering about the competition issue but simms isn’t concerned in the video below. He’s wrong about the mike evans, claypool and Dk comparison because those guys are much thicker, bigger wrs. But I agree with how crazy Watsons speed is. Take a look at simms top 5 wr rankings.

https://youtu.be/iUD6NldZBO8

I'm a fan of both. I would not be upset if the Chiefs drafted either one of them in the first or early 2nd (trade back). I hope the Chiefs double dip though at WR with only 1 WR on the roster in 2023.

Chris Meck 04-18-2022 06:25 AM

I found Sims' take on Alec Pierce interesting.

I like that he's a bit more polished than, say, Watson.

None of the injury concerns of Pickens.

Obviously played a high level of competition.

Would be a great pick at either of the 2nd round spots.


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