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Chiefshrink 01-14-2023 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16689861)
I remember when Deshawn Watson would just throw the ball deep down the field and pray, Hopkins seemed to always come down with it. I used to always argue that their offense wasn't sustainable because no way they could just heave it up to Hopkins for a 50:50 ball like that all the time, but they did.

And before Watson, Hopkins made Hoyer look like a competent QB.;)

Chris Meck 01-14-2023 06:45 PM

still not only no, but **** no.

staylor26 02-13-2023 10:30 PM

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Halfcan 02-13-2023 10:33 PM

Hop would have to take a pay cut. He is old and coming off a roid tarnished season.

Couch-Potato 02-14-2023 06:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BxuJiLT_6Y

kccrow 02-14-2023 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16810743)

Still No.

Thought about putting a youtube video link to someone screaming no but didn't. :D

The only way you trade for a 30-year-old WR is if it's a day 3 pick. So, the real question is if you think the Cards would accept a day 3 pick. If your answer is no then I wouldn't think about it further. If your answer is yes, I'd love to hear how that's a value.

RunKC 02-23-2023 09:25 AM

FWIW Verderame said on his pod that it would essentially be a 2 year $36 million with basically option years.

Not sure if that’s how the money works but I’d consider that if that was the case

O.city 02-23-2023 09:28 AM

Man......I don't think I'm interested in that.

But, devils advocate, he does play a style that lends to the way we played last year.

RunKC 02-23-2023 10:11 AM

The problem is that this FA class sucks. I’ve heard it multiple times that this is one of the worst FA classes ever.

Megatron96 02-23-2023 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16692083)
He probably won’t play for $15M. He probably holds out or asks for a trade for a long term deal? We traded tyreek with one year left on his deal. We could have kept him for one more year and then traded him. Veach doesn’t normally sign older players unless they are cheap on one year deals. I’m not saying it’s a terrible idea at all. It’s a great idea but the assumptions for how this would work are faulty. Dhop wants a new deal if traded.

Not sure if that's true. DHop is closer to the end of his career than the beginning, and he's already made his money, to the tune of over $110M for his career so far. He could be a ring-hunter at this point, and therefore willing to take a pay cut and a short contract to finally be a SB champion.

And he's still playing at a very high level, at or near his prime. He might be too old to be the long-term answer at WR1, but he could definitely fill that role as a dominant bridge for the next two to three years until Veach drafts the long-term WR1.

RunKC 02-23-2023 10:49 AM

So it would be the base salaries for Hopkins which are 2 years, $34.5 million. I would sign up for that all day if we trade a day 3 pick.

Again no guaranteed $$

duncan_idaho 02-23-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16824116)
So it would be the base salaries for Hopkins which are 2 years, $34.5 million. I would sign up for that all day if we trade a day 3 pick.

Again no guaranteed $$

Yeah, if you can get Hopkins for a Day 3 pick AND he is willing to play out the deal... sure.

But how likely are either of those things?

1/20 on the first and 1/50 on the second?

If either is not true, it's a pass for KC.

Couch-Potato 02-23-2023 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16824059)
Not sure if that's true. DHop is closer to the end of his career than the beginning, and he's already made his money, to the tune of over $110M for his career so far. He could be a ring-hunter at this point, and therefore willing to take a pay cut and a short contract to finally be a SB champion.

And he's still playing at a very high level, at or near his prime. He might be too old to be the long-term answer at WR1, but he could definitely fill that role as a dominant bridge for the next two to three years until Veach drafts the long-term WR1.

This is true, he might have more incentive to be in KC than JuJu who might want to score the biggest contract he can. I would also add that it's probable that joining KC takes some pressure off of Hopkins to be the #1 and extends his career longevity allowing him to further capitalize.

The only thing I have against this idea, which I mostly love anyways, is that we'd realistically have to give up a 2nd or 3rd plus a late round pick or conditional pick next year, and pay him a significant contract. I speculate this is the case because many other team's fanbases are projecting they will offer a 2nd for him. When it's possible we might be able to accomplish the same production by spending either just the pick(s), or the money, elsewhere.

Megatron96 02-23-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16824654)
This is true, he might have more incentive to be in KC than JuJu who might want to score the biggest contract he can. I would also add that it's probable that joining KC takes some pressure off of Hopkins to be the #1 and extends his career longevity allowing him to further capitalize.

The only thing I have against this idea, which I mostly love anyways, is that we'd realistically have to give up a 2nd or 3rd plus a late round pick or conditional pick next year, and pay him a significant contract. I speculate this is the case because many other team's fanbases are projecting they will offer a 2nd for him. When it's possible we might be able to accomplish the same production by spending either just the pick(s), or the money, elsewhere.

Meh. I've been convinced this will never happen anyway, but it's fun to speculate. I would say that if all it took was a 3rd this year and a future 3rd/4th/whatever, that's worth it. Take that deal and run very fast.

kccrow 02-23-2023 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16824184)
Yeah, if you can get Hopkins for a Day 3 pick AND he is willing to play out the deal... sure.

But how likely are either of those things?

1/20 on the first and 1/50 on the second?

If either is not true, it's a pass for KC.

This is precisely how I feel.

Trading for Hopkins isn't the problem. The money can work as is. Changing the money or paying more than day 3 is an absolute no in my opinion. Can a team outbid a low 4th rounder from KC? You bet your ass they can, and likely will.


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