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Why Not? 02-02-2023 01:32 PM
also, and I love Pacheco, but not sure he has the best field vision in the world. Several times it looked like he would just put his head down and run....right into the asshole of one of our lineman.

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-02-2023 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 16785428)
15 attempts says they didn't want to run.
How many times would you prefer to run headlong into a brick wall? They took it away and A gimpy Mahomes threw for 300 plus - 3 receivers.

PattyFlakes 02-02-2023 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 16785399)
They were playing the run and forcing a gimpy Mahomes to beat them.

And he did.
/end of thread… they played to stop the run and hoped a one legged Mahomes couldn’t beat them with his arm.

JPH83 02-02-2023 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16785432)
I'll say it again - Trey Smith really is the lynchpin for our rungame. It goes as he goes. And he had his hands full with Reader and Hill. He is used for so many of those wham blocks, etc... that really pop open runs that when those big ol boys in the middle of the Bengals DL were able to hold him up, the whole thing collapsed on itself.

There's not much to take away from it, IMO.
I hope this isn't the start of another "bench Smith for Allegretti" suggestion DJ ;-)

UK_Chief 02-02-2023 01:36 PM
Dump offs to RBs is our most effective run game against fronts like that

JPH83 02-02-2023 01:39 PM
If/when we run it I hope it's isolating Hargrave because as DJ said he just has no interest in stopping that. That's the best bet imo, their DEs are solid across the board.

Man their OL and DL depth is insane, good God. I honestly think if we pull this off it's a significantly bigger achievement than the last SB.

DJ's left nut 02-02-2023 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16785511)
I hope this isn't the start of another "bench Smith for Allegretti" suggestion DJ ;-)
To be fair now, I didn't say bench him.

I said sit him down to get him healthy because Allegretti can hold down the fort.

Smith was REALLY bad for about 5 weeks after that injury. I always worry about the ability of guys to recover while trying to play through something like that.

But it appears Smith was able to do it because he's playing more like he did last season and has been through most of the second half.

HC_Chief 02-02-2023 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by UK_Chief (Post 16785514)
Dump offs to RBs is our most effective run game against fronts like that
Might be our most effective run game in general. We are absolutely LOADED with guys who are terrors in open space. Our backs & receivers excel in the good 'ol WCO.

Gary Cooper 02-02-2023 01:45 PM
The Chiefs running game is usually inconsistent. It's never been a big strength because they'll always pass first with Reid. They rarely run behind the FB and frequently run out of shotgun. Much of their yardage comes from reverses and Mahomes' scrambles. Short yardage runs are the most frustrating because the interior OL is supposed to be good.

Regarding Sunday night, my impression was the Bengals stacked the box, as they should have. Whenever KC tried to run, it went nowhere.

htismaqe 02-02-2023 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16785432)
I'll say it again - Trey Smith really is the lynchpin for our rungame. It goes as he goes. And he had his hands full with Reader and Hill. He is used for so many of those wham blocks, etc... that really pop open runs that when those big ol boys in the middle of the Bengals DL were able to hold him up, the whole thing collapsed on itself.

There's not much to take away from it, IMO.
It's worth noting that I saw Smith limping TWICE during the game. He wasn't fully healthy either and Reader and Hill are beasts.

BWillie 02-02-2023 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 16785396)
Of course there was so much greatness to talk about after beating the pussycats in the AFCCG, did we overlook the shockingly terrible ground game?

What gives?

Total team rushing yds = 42

Pacheco = 10 runs for 26.
Jerrick = 4 runs for 1 yard
RoJo = 1 run for zero

RBs accounted for 27 yards.

Patrick 3 for 8 yards
Mecole 2 for 7

20 rush attempts (vs 43 pass attempts as far as I can tell)

Did CIN just stack the box the whole time figuring Pat couldn't scramble? We didn't make any adjustments? Our O-line is THAT bad run blocking?

Discuss.

If this was already drudged over in another megathread, please blame megathreads. George didn't even make it a "thing" in his ten things, just a couples sentences buried in the Mahomes "thing"

GIVE ME HOPE! How can we balance out the game to beat PHI.
Just think, there are people that want us to run it MORE

ROFL

dirk digler 02-02-2023 01:55 PM
Nick Jacobs broke this down in his viewing of the All-22. Good stuff.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4. I think the Chiefs wanted to run more but the Bengals answer to 12 or 13 personnel was to swap out Trey Hendrickson for Josh Tupou as the NT and alter to a 34 front. That was tougher to block with him, DJ Reader &amp; BJ Hill. Reader needs constant double teams.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1620639069922541569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Best22 02-02-2023 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16785431)
Chris Jones was reason #1. It's ok to admit. It's not a slight on Mahomes.
Mahomes had no run game, questionable receivers, and a bad ankle, yet he still kept the offense afloat for 60 minutes, keeping Burrow off the field for a large part of the game. The Chiefs gained 357 total yards. Mahomes accounted for 334 of them.

This Bengals defense with Anarumo’s complex scheme is tough on QBs (see Josh Allen last week) and Pat kept us rolling all throughout the game.

Gary Cooper 02-02-2023 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16785554)
Just think, there are people that want us to run it MORE

ROFL
Well, we did lead the NFL in rushing in 1995.

New World Order 02-02-2023 02:27 PM
We were moving the ball with ease until our receivers went down.

We had 20 points in 2.5 quarters; I think we continue to score if JuJu, Hardman and Toney don't get hurt.

Gray, Fortson and Kemp were out there a ton those last 1.5 quarters.


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