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Urc Burry 02-14-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16809285)
He's the mysterious on that list, whats up with this guy?

I think we'd take Njigba if he falls to us.

I believe Boute is returning for his senior year

JSN I feel like gets slept on too much. He was arguably the best receiver on the team that included Wilson and Olave

I know he sat out pretty much the entire season with a hamstring. But that’s something the medical staff will have to look into. And I feel like Marvin Harrison JR being a unicorn is deminishing his value

staylor26 02-14-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 16809557)
I believe Boute is returning for his senior year

JSN I feel like gets slept on too much. He was arguably the best receiver on the team that included Wilson and Olave

I know he sat out pretty much the entire season with a hamstring. But that’s something the medical staff will have to look into. And I feel like Marvin Harrison JR being a unicorn is deminishing his value

No, he declared for the draft.

Urc Burry 02-14-2023 12:20 PM

Yep I’ll take the L there. Looks like he did initially plan on returned but flipped. So I’m not too crazy haha.

Mecca 02-14-2023 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 16809557)
I believe Boute is returning for his senior year

JSN I feel like gets slept on too much. He was arguably the best receiver on the team that included Wilson and Olave

I know he sat out pretty much the entire season with a hamstring. But that’s something the medical staff will have to look into. And I feel like Marvin Harrison JR being a unicorn is deminishing his value

Boutte said he was coming back, then changed his mind because he's part of some sex party recruiting scandal at LSU so he would likely get suspended if he went back.

Mecca 02-14-2023 01:49 PM

Also to follow up, Boutte has talent but his draft position is going to be very heavily dependent on medicals and interviews, he also didn't really play a lot, has off field stuff.

He's a real boom or bust guy, if you can keep him on the field and keep him straight you might have a stud, if not he's gonna flame out hard.

Guys like that generally don't go round 1.

He's a pure wildcard, there will be teams that completely take him off their boards, hell some draft sites don't have him listed.

Urc Burry 02-14-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16810018)
Also to follow up, Boutte has talent but his draft position is going to be very heavily dependent on medicals and interviews, he also didn't really play a lot, has off field stuff.

He's a real boom or bust guy, if you can keep him on the field and keep him straight you might have a stud, if not he's gonna flame out hard.

Guys like that generally don't go round 1.

He's a pure wildcard, there will be teams that completely take him off their boards, hell some draft sites don't have him listed.

Sure sounding a lot like the guy we all wanted in the 2nd round last year…

JPH83 02-14-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 16810041)
Sure sounding a lot like the guy we all wanted in the 2nd round last year…

The beautiful end to this story is Skyy Moore getting 1,000 yards next year, a Pickens meltdown and refusal to play, followed by Boute to Chiefs in the 3rd becoming a WR1 after being disregarded by everyone.

staylor26 02-14-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16810018)
Also to follow up, Boutte has talent but his draft position is going to be very heavily dependent on medicals and interviews, he also didn't really play a lot, has off field stuff.

He's a real boom or bust guy, if you can keep him on the field and keep him straight you might have a stud, if not he's gonna flame out hard.

Guys like that generally don't go round 1.

He's a pure wildcard, there will be teams that completely take him off their boards, hell some draft sites don't have him listed.

He's basically this year's Pickens.

O.city 02-14-2023 03:09 PM

Eh.....lets do that whole thing again. I enjoyed it so much the first time.

kccrow 02-14-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16807979)
Once they get past the Combine and pro days.....I don't think Hyatt makes it past 15.

I don't think he will right now, really. A lot of boards haven't updated their pre-season and mid-season rankings yet.

kccrow 02-15-2023 07:22 AM

Brugler certainly isn't high on Flowers it appears. Has him as his #55 player while he has Hyatt at #22. Interstingly, he has my boy Tyler Scott at #47.

Big TT 02-20-2023 03:02 PM

Hyatt has LEGIT 4.3 speed...can't coach that, great hands, but I'll admit his route tree is limited...but that part is coachable. I would trade up for him.

ToxSocks 04-20-2023 04:54 PM

Bump.....

ToxSocks 04-20-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16797272)
Early, first impressions say Flowers. But ive spent very little time on this and reserve the right to change my mind. But my first impression is that Flowers is a special, rare talent that'll likely go in the first 20 picks.

2 months later and not only have i not changed my mind, im even more convinced now.

I wonder how different this poll would be if it were taken today, rather than back in Feb when people were just getting started with evals. A lot has changed since then.

kccrow 04-20-2023 06:01 PM

Interesting Detox. I haven't changed my mind on Hyatt either. We see things differently but that's okay. I don't dislike Flowers but he's definitely below the other top 4 for me. I really wish we had a shot at JSN but that's a dream that won't come to fruition.


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